WEBVTT 1 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:03.419 --> 00:00:11.249 Everyone good morning I'm going to go right to 1400 broad and. 2 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:11.249 --> 00:00:20.040 Is a plumbing supply house and doing other things, but they and they are up on eagle street. 3 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:20.485 --> 00:00:34.285 And a location up on in Westmoreland that they will be leaving at some point, they just recently purchased the Pepsi distribution center that is over on 1500. 4 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:34.285 --> 00:00:48.745 well, it's not 14 out abroad, I guess, in some instances. But it's a lot of, I think St Anthony or something so with us is Mary Shepard and Andrew Minio, who will describe the project and answer any questions. So, Mary is the. 5 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:48.895 --> 00:00:49.855 mary is the 6 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:50.460 --> 00:00:56.220 Chief Executive model washer, I guess, and I feel like that's what I do too. 7 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:00:58.135 --> 00:01:07.465 Yes, we're in the process of closing on 1400 broad and sort of came up under the I hadn't planned on buying the property any property right now, 8 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:07.465 --> 00:01:14.905 but I've always been in the eye out because I've been with for now almost 30 years. almost thirty years 9 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:15.240 --> 00:01:22.860 I bought it December 31st 15 from the former owner that I had worked for for quite a while. 10 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:24.690 --> 00:01:35.610 Good morning, and since as of as soon as I purchased it, I got certified with the state as a woman on business, which was another major effort. 11 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:35.610 --> 00:01:38.880 Um, but, um, now. 12 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:38.880 --> 00:01:52.680 This sort of came up as an opportunity and I didn't want to pass it up because I've been really I'm really starving for space because an eagle street I have. 13 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:01:52.680 --> 00:02:01.500 I don't even know how the square footage is not much. And I have 5 contacts trailers. 44 pillars is my other warehouse there. 14 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:10.650 And I'm still packed to the gills and I have another warehouse out in Washington, which is about 4,000 square feet. I used to own a boundary. 15 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:10.650 --> 00:02:14.550 And I, I liquidated that to make that a warehouse. 16 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:14.550 --> 00:02:18.270 When I purchased this and, um. 17 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:18.270 --> 00:02:24.960 So, I need to have everything in 1 location. That's my whole idea is to have it under 1 roof. 18 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:32.340 And I've already gone, and since I'm getting close to closing on this property. 19 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:32.340 --> 00:02:36.060 I've already sold the Western 1 in lieu of this 1. 20 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:42.150 I'm going to just get rid of all the others. The, the 1 on industry is going to take a little bit of time. 21 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:42.150 --> 00:02:45.720 Because I have to build out this property, I'm putting a lot of money into it. 22 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:45.720 --> 00:02:51.000 So, and if you have any questions on that feel free to ask me. 23 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:59.610 I think the biggest thing too is, you know, what it will allow pgm to do is not only have carry more inventory and help more. 24 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:02:59.610 --> 00:03:06.570 Companies, but also to to help, uh, add to the, you know, competitive edge with regards to. 25 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:06.570 --> 00:03:14.520 The plan is hopefully long term is to also hopefully offer more industries and supplies. 26 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:19.620 Or more supplies to other industries 1, being possibly electric and. 27 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:19.620 --> 00:03:27.780 But right now we really want to help grow, you know, and to help continue to help our, our, our local contractors. 28 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:28.285 --> 00:03:40.255 Well, with some of their projects, and some of the big ones around the state, and with this women, on portion of it, I'm going to try to add on, but I have to be able to have the ability to stock to fill that I stock stuff. 29 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:40.675 --> 00:03:50.695 I need to have space once I show that I can I stock, like, different types of material. I can add them to my code and I can also be doing that business as well. 30 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:58.560 So, it's a, it's it's a couple edge sword here. I've been really looking to do that for a long time. 31 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.560 And, of course, with the expansion will come. 32 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:06.210 And more jobs, and, uh, the ability to hire more people on. 33 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:04:07.230 --> 00:04:11.340 And what are we looking to do here? 34 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:16.470 Uh, induce the project and, um, I can I just. 35 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:04:16.645 --> 00:04:27.265 Linda, so I've disclosed to Jack there is potential conflict here, because I've represented Mary in the acquisition of this property. 36 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:04:27.655 --> 00:04:39.715 So, in connection with the lease lease back, I will be doing the work for the, and I will have Courtney Weller, who is a, a colleague will be issuing the opinion on behalf of the company. 37 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:04:39.955 --> 00:04:43.615 So technically there isn't a conflict but I want to disclose that. 38 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:04:47.099 --> 00:04:51.029 You need to push away from the table and I'm, I'm away. 39 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:04:51.029 --> 00:05:05.279 I'm gone, I don't want to intimidate anybody and devoting, you know. No, no of course not. 40 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:09.479 Anybody have any questions. 41 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:09.479 --> 00:05:19.679 No, I, I wouldn't say that I live in a house. That's exactly it's all design. So it's it's an old house. I read your application and I love it that you. 42 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:19.679 --> 00:05:23.909 That for people who live in, and then you have. 43 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:23.909 --> 00:05:27.689 Keep working for, you know what they're talking. Mm. Hmm. 44 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:28.014 --> 00:05:42.594 I'm grateful, I wish everybody success. Thank you. Well, it is. It's hard to find people that know stuff. Luckily, I have my son working for me, and I think I gave him a lot of the brains, cause I think he just blows me away. 45 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:42.714 --> 00:05:47.874 He has a lot of knowledge he's picked it up on his own and it's, it's really added to the, the business a lot. 46 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:50.124 --> 00:05:57.024 So, for the record, I'm going to read my Yep, we're here to consider an inducement resolution relating to the 1800, broad slash supply facility, 47 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:05:58.134 --> 00:06:12.954 granting preliminary approval for financial assistance in the form of reduction of real property text for a period of 10 years value, as estimated at 1,064,000 dollars, which financial assistance is consistent with the agencies uniform, tax exemption policy and authorizing the agency. 48 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:12.954 --> 00:06:18.474 is consistent with the agencies uniform tax exemption policy and authorizing the agency 49 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:18.479 --> 00:06:26.189 To conduct a public hearing also consider a seeker resolution relating to the 1400 facility. 50 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:26.189 --> 00:06:36.029 Supply facility, the the agencies acting as lead agency for the seeker review and has determined. The project is an unlisted action project. 51 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:37.049 --> 00:06:41.909 Can I just add the sales tax and workers tab? Yeah. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Yeah. 52 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:41.909 --> 00:06:54.329 Again, sales tax and the mortgage report, by the way you said oh, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to request. A lot of people call me. 53 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:54.329 --> 00:06:58.019 All right, can I get a motion doing this? I'm moving. 54 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:06:58.019 --> 00:07:02.339 2nd, all favor by post. 55 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:02.339 --> 00:07:09.329 Luck Thank you very much. Thank you. All very much. Appreciate everything you do? Yeah. 56 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:09.329 --> 00:07:15.329 Then can you yeah, uh, and, uh, illustrate is that coming through. 57 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:15.329 --> 00:07:21.419 Which 1 grid guy like me. Oh, you're probably talking about Carl. I didn't hear you, Linda. 58 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:07:21.419 --> 00:07:27.449 That you did really talking about, he just. 59 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:27.449 --> 00:07:35.669 He, he actually just had a, I think she's asking if you make the motion for the seeker, but Linda, you're breaking up. We can't hear you. It was all part of the, uh. 60 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:35.669 --> 00:07:38.879 What about the speaker? 61 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:44.009 Yeah, okay. This is all part of jacks motion, so Yep. 62 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:45.419 --> 00:07:54.659 Great Thank you. Thank you. Very much. You all very much, Mary. We'll be I'll be in touch with you guys Thank you so much. Appreciate it. 63 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:07:55.494 --> 00:08:08.934 Oh, I didn't even know that was Laura. I was just introducing I never met him face to face myself. 64 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:14.964 --> 00:08:20.874 I didn't need it like no, thank you. 65 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:21.449 --> 00:08:27.119 It's Laura. 66 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:27.119 --> 00:08:36.749 We go back to sunset. Nope, no, no the next project we're going to go to, uh, for a, uh, under new business, which is Artspace. 67 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:36.749 --> 00:08:41.279 Uh, with us is, uh. 68 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:48.299 Becky, uh, Saint Clair Carlson Carlson Sinclair. It's all right. Sorry about that. 69 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:48.299 --> 00:08:52.679 And is Alex with you? No. 70 "Alex Catera" (4028045312) 00:08:54.029 --> 00:08:57.149 Okay, I'm just, uh, just watching. 71 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:08:58.289 --> 00:09:01.319 Okay, very good, sir. Um. 72 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:09:01.704 --> 00:09:10.914 So, uh, Becky is going to talk about the project, uh, this project project originally was going to be on Genesee street. 73 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:09:10.914 --> 00:09:24.234 It has since moved to some, uh, a city and a couple own properties that are on the park side behind where the thornberrys or the, um. 74 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:09:24.569 --> 00:09:28.679 I forgot the name of it lowers garden. Thank you. 75 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.369 Is located so, uh. 76 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:09:32.369 --> 00:09:40.139 Becky, if you would describe the project, and then the board may have some questions or something. So if you want to go ahead. 77 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:09:40.434 --> 00:09:55.314 Sure, yeah, we're, we're happy to report that we have, um, our Artspace project, you know, it's probably been going around for awhile in Utica and kind of moving locations and like you mentioned, 78 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:09:55.524 --> 00:10:10.014 um, or now at, um, park and Clark, um, right behind the Stanley theater where there's vacant lots kind of overgrown rot Labs currently. Um, it's, uh, Artspace. Utica is a 4 Storey. 79 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:10.139 --> 00:10:20.009 43,000 square foot building that it has is a residential building that has preference for artists. Um. 80 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:20.334 --> 00:10:31.434 And it will be solely residential, um, but then we'll also have a gallery space on the 1st level, um, that, uh, not a commercial space that's open to the public, 81 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:31.434 --> 00:10:37.134 but a residential space in which the residents can invite the public in, um, for events. 82 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:37.134 --> 00:10:49.914 And for kind of engaging, um, also building out a public plaza, um, so our goal is really to kind of, uh, connect to that area, connect with, um, all our facilities, um, that are in the area. 83 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:50.009 --> 00:10:57.419 Um, it is a, um, uh, range of incomes, um, with it all at. 84 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:10:57.419 --> 00:11:10.344 Um, actually, no, we have on here. I'm sorry I'm trying to remember distribution where we have 40 to 80% of the area income. Um, so a lot of it you would consider as a workforce housing. 85 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:11:10.344 --> 00:11:21.444 Um, we did just receive, um, tax credit award from the state. Um, that it will allow for us to move forward, um, to construction when we intend to start construction. 86 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:11:21.444 --> 00:11:26.844 Um, in March, we're working on just wrapping up the drawings and moving that along. along 87 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:11:27.654 --> 00:11:40.854 So we have, we've secured the majority of our funding through all these these stage awards. We have both the tax credits, um, and also housing trust fund. Um, we have, um, money, um, in the project as well. 88 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:11:41.034 --> 00:11:48.444 Um, and the city generously, um, put in, um, some RPO funds as well to help close our gap for the project. Um. 89 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:11:48.809 --> 00:11:54.419 But we're currently in full steam ahead. Um, to start construction, um, on the project. 90 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:03.119 Any questions. 91 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:12:03.119 --> 00:12:08.819 I have a question, how does how does someone qualify as an artist? 92 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:09.054 --> 00:12:18.744 Oh, yeah, that's a good question. So, with it also to just to clarify so we do have a preference for artists, but we only have it on 75% of the units. 93 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:18.744 --> 00:12:33.594 Um, that's a new regulation by the state for, um, so we haven't just on 75% of them. So a person anybody can apply to live in any of our buildings, even if it were 100 preference for artists so anybody can apply. 94 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:33.594 --> 00:12:38.664 Mm. Hmm. Um, and then when they put it in their app. put it in their app 95 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:38.819 --> 00:12:45.509 They self identify as an artist. Um, so then they go through the process of making sure that they income qualify. 96 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:45.804 --> 00:12:52.584 Once they do that those that I've identified as artists are, then the 1st ones that are able to fill in the lots, 97 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:12:52.584 --> 00:13:05.754 the ones that don't still have an opportunity if there weren't enough artists that submitted their applications and then they would be able to live in there as well, um, but those that are self identified as artists then go into, um, uh, 98 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:05.754 --> 00:13:15.504 there's a committee that kind of that meets with them. It's made up of, um, usually local supporters at the beginning. Um, I've just people that we've been in contact with. 99 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:15.869 --> 00:13:29.964 Um, and they go through fair housing training, so they know exactly what questions they can ask, um, into the standard set of questions because you have to be able to ask the same question for everyone. Um, and they go and they just present portfolio or whatever. 100 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:30.354 --> 00:13:43.254 It is that their art is, um, it's a broad definition. Very broad. Um, you know, you can have your, you could have a writer, you can have a painter or something that you would think of as artists. Um, you know, it could go to Colin airy artists. 101 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:43.284 --> 00:13:45.834 It could go to, um, with hair. 102 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:45.869 --> 00:13:47.519 I could go to. 103 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:13:47.519 --> 00:14:01.614 Tattoo artist, you know, there's just kind of we're not we're not there to limit. We're just here to kind of create kind of a general definition and so when we meet with them, it's also not juried. Um, we're not there to tell you how good your art is. 104 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:14:01.974 --> 00:14:10.224 Um, it's more just to understand kind of the commitment of the person. Um, and just, uh, they're wanting to be a part of an artist community. 105 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:14:11.999 --> 00:14:17.729 Have you ever done anything like this before? Or do you know of anybody? 106 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:14:17.729 --> 00:14:21.959 I was taken out of this sort of project and then sitting nearby. 107 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:14:21.959 --> 00:14:31.259 Well, we have 54 projects across the United States from small towns to we do have, uh, 3 other projects in New York. 108 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:14:31.259 --> 00:14:35.549 Ones in Buffalo one's in Paychex and one's in East Harlem. 109 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:14:35.549 --> 00:14:41.159 Um, is the 1 and I didn't use is our latest 1. I think that was completed about. 110 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.199 8 years ago, and that's about 100 units. There. It was an old school that we renovated. 111 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:14:49.109 --> 00:14:54.659 Thank you interesting. Any other questions. 112 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:14:55.194 --> 00:14:56.814 Hi, Jack, 113 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:14:56.814 --> 00:15:11.784 you want to read the sure considering inducement resolution relating to the art space facility granting preliminary approval for financial assistance in the form of reduction of real property tax for a period of 30 years value estimated 114 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:11.784 --> 00:15:24.594 at 6,845,270 dollars, which financial assistance is a deviation from the agencies uniform, tax exemption policy, and authorizing the agency to conduct a public hearing as to the. authorizing the agency to conduct a public hearing as to the 115 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:24.659 --> 00:15:30.059 Seeker it is on the agenda for the planning board tomorrow. 116 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:30.059 --> 00:15:34.529 So then at the next meeting, then we'd be able to pass the secret. Okay. 117 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:34.529 --> 00:15:38.249 All right, you get a motion. 118 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:38.249 --> 00:15:41.489 I'll make a motion 2nd. 119 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:41.489 --> 00:15:45.119 Okay, John all in favor post. 120 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:45.119 --> 00:15:52.769 Okay, good luck. Thank you. Thank you. Very much. We'll be in touch. Our lawyers will talk with your lawyers and. 121 "Becky Carlson St. Clair" (3213438208) 00:15:52.769 --> 00:15:58.139 Sounds good Thank you. I appreciate it. Yep you have a great day. Thank you. You too. Bye. Bye. 122 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:15:58.139 --> 00:16:01.589 Yeah, um, Jack, I guess. 123 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:01.589 --> 00:16:05.129 I mean, related to the. 124 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:05.129 --> 00:16:11.579 Housing and the, uh, the housing started with the city recently commissioned I mean. 125 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:11.579 --> 00:16:16.679 What what is the plan in the city? Because it seems as though. 126 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:29.159 There's quite a few housing projects, right? Are you there come on line in the last 2 years and quite a few more that are going to come online next 18 to 24 months right? I mean. 127 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:42.059 For most of the projects that we've had, so far we've had, uh, marketing studies done and it shows, and they have proved out. So, for these are all 1 off, they're not looking at it globally. I'm talking more the city's approach to. 128 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:42.059 --> 00:16:49.589 Well, I have to be quite honest, I have not read the housing study. Brian could probably answer that a little bit better. If you want me to. 129 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:16:49.589 --> 00:17:03.029 Yes, when they come in, you know, not for intake. So I, but I think at some point we need to understand right where we're calling cause the, the, the study clearly outlined a need for housing is on low to moderate. 130 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:03.029 --> 00:17:11.399 Side which these projects that we're talking about meat right? But WH, where where are we going in the city? Long term? 131 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:11.399 --> 00:17:16.289 Um, uh, yeah, well, that type of investment. 132 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:16.289 --> 00:17:20.069 They were seeking yeah, I mean, not to. 133 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:20.069 --> 00:17:24.299 Political, I mean, that's kinda what the mayors. 134 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:24.299 --> 00:17:28.769 Touting now is what we're doing, and we certainly have to meet the needs of. 135 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:28.769 --> 00:17:32.789 The population, but. 136 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:32.789 --> 00:17:37.349 And we got to make sure we're striking balance as well. Mm. Hmm. 137 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:37.349 --> 00:17:41.429 I will have something together for the next meeting. 138 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:41.429 --> 00:17:46.109 Set to make sure all com. 139 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:17:46.109 --> 00:18:01.019 I'll bring my presentation to bring some John. I know you wanted fresh fruit, partly looking at them all policy change and policy relative. So. 140 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:01.019 --> 00:18:04.139 Right. We don't get ourselves stuck somewhere down the road. We're. 141 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:04.139 --> 00:18:12.119 Yeah, proven projects that I'm really going to be used in the interim. Yeah, absolutely. I'm pointing to the fact that we've approved a bunch of them, so right. 142 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:19.649 Hello Jack? Yes, sir. Has anyone in the administration. 143 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:19.649 --> 00:18:23.519 Decided to take a look at the master plan that was developed. 144 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.849 When fire was mayor, which is a while ago now. 145 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:26.849 --> 00:18:33.239 See see how that fits in with what's going on. I'll include that with the conversation. 146 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:33.239 --> 00:18:40.529 Okay, yeah, it's more on the planning side of things, you know, I'm just not, you know, I don't believe. 147 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:40.529 --> 00:18:44.729 I don't do Margaret overall plans. 148 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:44.729 --> 00:18:50.459 Yeah, uh, just a minor thing, which you sent us for the airspace. 149 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:50.459 --> 00:18:57.359 I think it was the architects report, the addresses are right on the top, or at the bottom is still has the. 150 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:03.599 Oh, parcel highlighted oh, for John to see Tracy, but yeah gotcha. Okay. Well. 151 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.989 You have 1 last question about that. 152 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:06.989 --> 00:19:12.359 Yeah, the project of infrastructure with the heating elements that you were talking about. 153 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:25.769 Is that tied in with this project at all? They are in their in the design of their building they're kind of past that already. Okay. So I think they, they're accommodating a, an air based. 154 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:25.769 --> 00:19:34.919 You know, heat source instead of the geothermal that would be out out in that. A lot of sending the additional. 155 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:34.919 --> 00:19:39.209 Products with 1 there correct? Yeah, exactly. 156 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:43.289 --> 00:19:47.219 Hey. 157 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:47.219 --> 00:19:55.079 Sure um, so this is actually ratification of action that was already taken. 158 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:04.229 You recall the Utica sunset closing that occurred a couple of years ago um, the project is at a state where they're. 159 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:04.584 --> 00:20:14.784 Doing their permanent financing, they asked to the idea to enter into a regulatory agreement simply in its capacity is a leasehold interest. 160 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:15.144 --> 00:20:22.794 The idea has no obligations under that just to recognize the existence of the agreement. So then signed this. 161 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:23.339 --> 00:20:28.499 It was probably in June for closing so this is just ratification of that action. 162 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:28.499 --> 00:20:33.419 Okay, motion to ratify. 163 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:33.419 --> 00:20:37.439 3rd, all in favor. 164 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:37.439 --> 00:20:41.489 A coupon. 165 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:41.489 --> 00:20:47.669 Um, so 1 of the things that when we have, we have a master release. 166 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:47.669 --> 00:20:52.559 With our, our client, and then past that, we have our sub. 167 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:20:52.559 --> 00:21:02.849 So, just so that everybody is on the same page with them there were and while we had identified, I think, 6 out of the 8 that are in cartoons building. 168 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:02.849 --> 00:21:09.209 The 16 stone group of and divine needs were later additions. 169 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:09.209 --> 00:21:23.429 So, then we needed to acknowledge consent to the sub list of the space. Yep. Um, excuse me and we did receive copies of the sublease agreements. Excuse me? We have a request to. 170 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:23.429 --> 00:21:30.749 The company to amend it just to incorporate the ID standard sublease language. So we'll make sure that that's incorporated. 171 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:30.749 --> 00:21:34.829 Any issues will. 172 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:40.529 Being in there or anything? Uh, no limit. I discussed that yesterday. 173 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:41.034 --> 00:21:45.414 I have no problem with that commercial. 174 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:21:50.664 --> 00:22:04.434 Um, so the closing, the original closing, the agency took all action to qualify financial assistance for retail facility, because we knew there were going to be retail establishments in there. Um, so. 175 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:04.739 --> 00:22:09.389 As far as the retail portion know, as far as the brew pub portion. 176 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:09.389 --> 00:22:12.509 Linda, yeah, it's a nice. 177 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:22:12.509 --> 00:22:20.459 Yeah, it's fine. It's not a majority of the space. It's a small part of it. Um, so I don't I don't have a problem with it. 178 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:20.459 --> 00:22:25.079 Yeah, it's probably like 2500 square feet all kinds. 179 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:28.739 That's not perfect. Okay. I get a motion. 180 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:28.739 --> 00:22:36.299 4th, all in favor aye. 181 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:36.299 --> 00:22:46.229 Reminder on that. Okay. I was wearing the blue problem. That's why you did the project all in favor. 182 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:22:46.824 --> 00:23:00.804 Both move metric, we're already free, so they've already had a good scotch Peter anything else? 183 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:01.314 --> 00:23:05.544 Uh, no, no that's it. For me. Uh, projects we're looking at. 184 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:05.849 --> 00:23:11.039 Oh, let's see, we have, um, things that are. 185 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:24.234 Projects that are around the harbor are kind of coming into into fruition then is president of that group. So he knows. So there are Patel has a project that they're going to be a couple down there. 186 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:24.864 --> 00:23:30.324 Ashley is looking at 1 of the buildings down there. So, in time those will be coming along. 187 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:30.629 --> 00:23:36.179 Um, you know, I've looked at a couple others, but I think to the, um. 188 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:36.179 --> 00:23:42.029 18Million dollars that Schumer from North and all that. 189 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:42.294 --> 00:23:53.934 Well, in fact, I, I, I couldn't, I mean, I don't know when you, if you have a little better on the money we got a few years ago, was for the bridge, you know, walk ability into the heart or not, but that's just the funding for it. 190 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:53.964 --> 00:23:58.914 Yeah, around the harbor, not in it so kind of brings the city that works so. 191 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:05.579 Good how about the, uh, bleaker street is another state and so. 192 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:24:09.384 --> 00:24:24.144 9,900, it's always the bane of our existence. Um, I know they're, they're supposedly talking to a company to move in there. I guess it's a local company and some expansion. I will get a better timeline. a better timeline 193 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:24:25.254 --> 00:24:37.314 For that if if prior to any meetings that you have questions, as long as we're on that topic. Yeah I mean, it's it's well, that's coming up in December. We got to deal with it now. 194 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:24:37.464 --> 00:24:44.784 Yeah, I mean, that's that's been 5 years ago. Right? Um, and then, what are we going? I'm selling, right? 195 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:24:44.844 --> 00:24:54.414 We don't have anything on that right now, but, you know, he, is, he's putting he's put an application how to me in the past for 1 of those buildings I reviewed it. I mean. 196 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:24:54.479 --> 00:25:08.069 Comments and he's never gotten it back to me, but he does have that small the 2 story, right? Next to Ford. skyler, he's got the 4 story that he's looking to make the apartments out of. I think that's the county building. Um, so those we just we don't have under. 197 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:08.069 --> 00:25:16.409 Any type of, uh, an update from them where they are planning to move forward and what needs to be more specific than the prior updates. 198 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:16.409 --> 00:25:20.939 I mean, I mean, is that billing completed. 199 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:20.939 --> 00:25:28.769 I I know that you have, you had the building for a while now a signature has it uh, it's been run through a bunch of different people. 200 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:28.769 --> 00:25:35.129 Right so is it has it's a reasonable as the design changed. 201 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:35.129 --> 00:25:43.709 Since no originally came, no, originally, they said they were waiting for the funds to come in to kind of jump start that, but then that's. 202 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:43.709 --> 00:25:49.169 Source and use, he gave us 567 years ago wherever it was right? He's got an update. Yeah. 203 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:49.169 --> 00:25:55.019 That project overruns understandably and it just over time. 204 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:55.019 --> 00:25:59.489 You know, price increases, I mean, going to complete that project. 205 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:25:59.489 --> 00:26:03.149 I really, I mean, yeah. 206 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:04.199 --> 00:26:11.819 I, I bring it when I talk with these guys, I bring it up to them and they just, you know oh, yeah yeah. We're working on it. Okay. No. 207 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:17.279 Good intentions yeah. Should we invite them to our next meeting? 208 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:22.709 The board wants to be 1 and find out what's going on. Yeah. Yeah. 209 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:26:22.709 --> 00:26:27.749 You can be a big. 210 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:26:27.749 --> 00:26:31.409 Jack, we should also, um, look at the job. 211 "linda romano" (2661266432) 00:26:31.409 --> 00:26:35.159 Requirements of each of those projects. 212 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:35.159 --> 00:26:40.769 Was that clearly? Yeah, the time has passed on some of them. Yeah. 213 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:45.659 And and they want to do more in city, right? Right. Is. 214 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:45.659 --> 00:26:51.689 We all know yeah, they have quite a number of buildings that they're a. 215 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:51.689 --> 00:26:56.879 You know, they have a piece of the, uh, I don't want to step into the legal political, both. 216 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:26:56.879 --> 00:27:00.959 Correct here, but, um, you know. 217 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:00.959 --> 00:27:04.259 They can't keep expanding if they're not taking care of. 218 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:04.259 --> 00:27:07.799 And finishing what they've already, right exactly. 219 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:08.909 --> 00:27:17.069 High profile buildings, right? On genesis street. That's right. Yeah that's upside. Should be right there in the corner. It's. 220 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:17.069 --> 00:27:20.819 Well, it's nice for me all his bread. 221 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:20.819 --> 00:27:25.289 Well, the other buildings that he has is that they're, they have, uh. 222 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:25.289 --> 00:27:28.769 Some type of, um. 223 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:28.769 --> 00:27:38.549 You know, control of it if you will fiber and bleaker, they have Tennessee street down across from the on the other side of the then. 224 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:42.509 The laundry building this down all along the arterial. 225 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:42.509 --> 00:27:49.289 So they have their hands on a lot of buildings, but I don't see a ton of progress. You know, they do their environmental, they clean them out. 226 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:49.289 --> 00:27:53.819 And then they just wait until they get a clean it up. Yeah. 227 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:27:53.819 --> 00:28:02.519 They cleaned it up right now. It's got a 100,000 square foot building. It's 125 years old. What the heck are we going to do with it? Right? 228 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.719 I need a lot of money to write and turn that 1. 229 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:06.719 --> 00:28:13.229 Oh, you gotta move down on like an app. 230 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:15.509 --> 00:28:19.769 Why don't you invite him and Jack next meeting? No, I have it right here. 231 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:26.519 I will be I don't want to have been in December 1. you know, they've got a gun to our, uh. 232 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:31.079 Right, no, I haven't met in October next meeting and or September. 233 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:45.959 See, where they're going. 234 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:45.959 --> 00:28:49.469 I'm on the same side of the street right? So. 235 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:49.469 --> 00:28:58.019 It used to be the, you know, there's the Sonoco on the corner and then their little plaza used to be like, phase and Rite aid and stuff in the auto parts place. 236 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:28:58.019 --> 00:29:02.789 All right uh, yeah, yeah, colon. 237 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:02.789 --> 00:29:10.559 Almost across history from the, uh, Chinese restaurant colonial laundromat there. Yeah. 238 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.629 They own, or they control it. Who knows what them. 239 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:17.369 --> 00:29:22.739 Unless you just set it right there. Hard to know. 240 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:22.739 --> 00:29:28.019 They just keep moving, keep moving and driving and deacon. 241 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:29.789 --> 00:29:34.379 All right? Anything else no, that's good. For me. No New Jersey. 242 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:34.379 --> 00:29:47.999 Oh, I'm sorry, I just wanted to give a brief update. Um, we've been working with the assessor's office here. Um, it looks like they are changing the technical status state in the city of, from August 1st, to March. 1st. 243 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:29:47.999 --> 00:30:02.159 Um, that will be consistent with the rest of United county. Um, except Rome will be I think the only outlier, but the city has approved it and they're waiting for confirmation from Albany. Um, the only thing that. 244 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:02.159 --> 00:30:05.849 This will affect Alrighty, our calendar is. 245 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:05.849 --> 00:30:16.739 A busy time will now be March. 1st closings will have to occur before March 1st, in order to get benefits for the upcoming years. Okay. 246 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:23.669 Wouldn't do anything on your end? Nope. I'm good. Good. Good. 247 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:23.669 --> 00:30:28.829 2nd, all in favor aye post. 248 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:28.829 --> 00:30:32.399 Remaining, thank you all. 249 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:32.399 --> 00:30:44.969 Mr. good morning. I, I was reading your exchange with the controller. You did a very good job. 250 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:46.134 --> 00:30:54.024 Oh, well, okay. I wanna speak to. 251 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:30:54.024 --> 00:31:04.194 This isn't even you can have Orlando, right? 252 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:31:04.314 --> 00:31:14.874 So the other ones I've been sitting for sign all those no. Oh, well, so people don't read that they read the headlines. 253 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (918174976) 00:31:14.969 --> 00:31:26.688 Thanks and then Ron, this chair will start doing brainstorm next time. You not so much out of yeah. Crazy. Yeah, that's the thing. I have a guy called.