WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.445 --> 00:00:13.435 Order there was a three hundred thousand dollars subtraction on the unit cost items. So this job came in a couple of hundred thousand dollars lower, then predict, then, you know, our budget. 2 00:00:14.365 --> 00:00:24.234 So, and then a lot of them make sense change orders for seven, six. 3 00:00:24.894 --> 00:00:39.564 So the long and short of a Paul is that we have enough money to fund these change orders. Yeah. In the contract. Yeah. In the end of the day we had, we had to do a six point seven million dollar project to get six million dollars. 4 00:00:41.664 --> 00:00:55.164 We finished just under six point seven with you when you take a look at the soft cost here together with the contractor costs. We finished it like forty thousand dollars underneath that total cost. 5 00:00:56.219 --> 00:01:10.075 So, you know, we might, you know, well, you know, they won't give us exactly six million. They'll give us something just sorted that, whatever, and they give us ninety percent of that number will be our final reimbursement from the state. 6 00:01:10.165 --> 00:01:20.515 You know, so we, we didn't go over budget, so we didn't cost the LTC any dollars so okay, you might so go ahead. 7 00:01:22.885 --> 00:01:26.305 You might be able to get all of six million dollars. 8 00:01:27.415 --> 00:01:31.944 Okay. Or add something to bring it up that you get reimbursed on. 9 00:01:33.415 --> 00:01:42.295 Okay, we could we'll see what they say. I mean, they've done that to me before, even with just a little amount like this, where they. 10 00:01:43.825 --> 00:01:58.105 You know, they wrote in amendment and they've shorted us, you know, a little bit of money, because it's how they are. I guess you never get money back. We could apply. 11 00:01:58.344 --> 00:02:11.729 There is one thought there is some tipping fees that one on the other contract. And I suppose that I can find something you can throw in there. Okay. And see if they'll recognize it. Okay. 12 00:02:12.955 --> 00:02:27.444 It's a Jack. That might be something we can do is split the tipping fees to the different two different grants. Okay. For a petroleum. So, let's talk about that and see if we can do that. Gotcha. 13 00:02:29.365 --> 00:02:31.044 Yeah, there are some engineering costs. 14 00:02:33.805 --> 00:02:34.254 Yeah, 15 00:02:35.245 --> 00:02:35.514 like, 16 00:02:35.574 --> 00:02:35.905 I mean, 17 00:02:36.115 --> 00:02:38.425 everything else with the re engineering is, 18 00:02:39.025 --> 00:02:42.474 it seems to be and I did add a little bit engineering, 19 00:02:42.474 --> 00:02:48.865 because we had to do the submerge vegetation study that's coming up next for one of these change orders. 20 00:02:48.865 --> 00:02:52.735 But that didn't that still didn't bring us up to what we need to do. 21 00:02:54.900 --> 00:02:57.985 But, yeah, I think the tipping fees might be the best way. 22 00:03:00.625 --> 00:03:07.224 So, okay, so after that, can I get a motion to approve change orders five and six. 23 00:03:12.925 --> 00:03:27.625 Motion by Brian, so okay. The one all in favor. Aye opposed. Thanks Paul. Yep, I think you're still up, right? 24 00:03:28.134 --> 00:03:42.955 Okay. I just signed that and sent that back to you by the way yeah. I don't know. Do we need a motion? And I don't know, for really needed emotional, substantial completion, substantial completion certificate. It just, you know, we inspect to the job. 25 00:03:42.955 --> 00:03:57.444 It is a minor punch list, which they've already completed. So, the, the date of substantial completion that we gave the contract, it was June twenty, six, two thousand with me. So I'm not sure if you really need a board resolution for substantial completion. 26 00:03:57.444 --> 00:04:09.925 We, we can do that just to be safe. If you would, like, probably just a advisement and, you know, letting us know what we're where we are with it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 27 00:04:09.925 --> 00:04:13.044 Then sign their certificate and send that back to you. Okay. 28 00:04:15.115 --> 00:04:15.354 Right. 29 00:04:16.314 --> 00:04:16.764 All right, 30 00:04:16.795 --> 00:04:17.394 and then, 31 00:04:17.394 --> 00:04:19.464 so I mentioned this already, 32 00:04:19.464 --> 00:04:22.855 so as part of the soft costs and the, 33 00:04:26.095 --> 00:04:31.884 we had to do if you remember the core engineers wetland permit, 34 00:04:32.274 --> 00:04:37.435 we had to do a compensatory mitigation related to the buckets, 35 00:04:38.574 --> 00:04:38.875 you know, 36 00:04:38.904 --> 00:04:41.394 because the ball kids take took up some, 37 00:04:41.785 --> 00:04:43.194 some of the waters of the US, 38 00:04:43.194 --> 00:04:44.935 when we filled behind the buckets, 39 00:04:45.444 --> 00:04:48.264 we lost them waters of United States of America. 40 00:04:48.295 --> 00:04:55.254 So you have to do compensatory mitigation mitigation we had to do is plant these put these plants play them down the, 41 00:04:55.855 --> 00:05:06.714 the canal underwater plants and hopefully they grew and so one thing we we didn't have, 42 00:05:06.834 --> 00:05:07.584 we didn't have, 43 00:05:07.584 --> 00:05:19.345 in our scope was the inspection of the plans to make sure they're doing well and and that has to be done once a year for three years. 44 00:05:19.345 --> 00:05:25.764 So, you know, so I use the bucket money and call it, you know, construction inspection to do the first year. 45 00:05:26.545 --> 00:05:34.045 So, this amendment here is really most of this is that inspection of the submerged aquatic vegetation. 46 00:05:34.975 --> 00:05:45.564 So we have to have our ecological people, go down there in boats and do underwater camera, you know, pictures and all this other stuff, and write a report to the core. 47 00:05:45.564 --> 00:05:54.985 So most of this fifteen thousand, seven hundred and sixty dollar change order has to do with that requirements with three inspection. 48 00:05:55.824 --> 00:06:08.634 But then we've added, we added a little bit on top of this five, six thousand on top of this just most of the reimbursement application work. 49 00:06:08.665 --> 00:06:16.944 Lisa, I've been doing an overhead, but the bulk had because of this enhanced protocols is just impossible. It just takes forever. 50 00:06:17.634 --> 00:06:32.214 The, you know, we've got good news that we got our first reimbursement back this week, but I have to put one more big reimbursement package release and I have to put one more reimbursement package together to get the full reimbursement for the bulk heads. 51 00:06:32.394 --> 00:06:45.084 It's gonna be a again. It's a, it's a lot of effort so we're just trying to capture some of that effort, you know, in in this past quarter as well. So that's the other piece of this. 52 00:06:47.725 --> 00:06:52.884 And we're not really capturing all, but just gives us something that will charge a little bit against. 53 00:06:55.345 --> 00:07:04.404 And then, so that this total change order is fifteen thousand, seven hundred and sixty, which would bring the. 54 00:07:06.415 --> 00:07:15.625 The bulk had a soft cost portion, the engineering portion up to two hundred and seventy one thousand, six hundred and with a direct expense budget of a thousand. 55 00:07:15.625 --> 00:07:21.595 So, two hundred and seventy two thousand, six hundred is that would this change order brings the whole total up to. 56 00:07:23.694 --> 00:07:37.675 All right, that brings that that's inclusive of that. Forty thousand shortfall we were talking about before correct? I had already I had already added this in, and even with this added in, we're still forty thousand with this added in were forty thousand under. 57 00:07:38.514 --> 00:07:38.995 Okay. 58 00:07:40.764 --> 00:07:46.675 Alright, can I get a motion to accept the change order? Number four. 59 00:07:51.834 --> 00:07:58.074 Hey, buddy, it also may be interest. 60 00:08:00.985 --> 00:08:15.954 Sucking up. Okay. All in favor. Bye. Bye. Alright, Paul. I guess you're still up number six. 61 00:08:16.375 --> 00:08:16.704 Okay. 62 00:08:17.274 --> 00:08:17.694 So, 63 00:08:17.725 --> 00:08:19.165 with this next change order, 64 00:08:19.165 --> 00:08:25.285 this was our original plan for where zip extension, 65 00:08:25.314 --> 00:08:32.845 which is construction work being funded by the city was to have city engineering department. 66 00:08:32.875 --> 00:08:43.945 Give all the inspection was notified by date last Friday or end of last week that that Stephanie words, 67 00:08:43.945 --> 00:08:48.684 who was dedicated to this job is just too busy, 68 00:08:49.740 --> 00:08:53.815 multiple projects to give this whole time inspection. 69 00:08:54.024 --> 00:09:07.254 And we really can't have somebody out there just an hour or two a day to to look at, you know, to inspect the job. So, you know, the city asked us if there was any other way, we could. 70 00:09:07.855 --> 00:09:08.845 Get staff out there, 71 00:09:08.965 --> 00:09:12.715 inspected on the engineer side and so, 72 00:09:12.985 --> 00:09:13.434 you know, 73 00:09:15.235 --> 00:09:15.804 unfortunately, 74 00:09:15.804 --> 00:09:16.524 this grant gets, 75 00:09:16.524 --> 00:09:16.764 you know, 76 00:09:16.764 --> 00:09:17.215 so the, 77 00:09:17.575 --> 00:09:19.705 the other grant we have these as Z one, 78 00:09:19.705 --> 00:09:26.634 eighty two is got a pretty broad scope and includes roadwork and utility work. 79 00:09:26.634 --> 00:09:38.455 And so we can, we can write this inspection to it and it's really our only choice. So, the next change order is, let me see, it breaks down this. 80 00:09:40.914 --> 00:09:50.125 Let me just open this up. I think I opened this up five times. Let me screen over here, this is change order six or amendment six. 81 00:09:51.115 --> 00:10:04.524 So I got too many a minute here. So okay. 82 00:10:04.975 --> 00:10:05.274 So, 83 00:10:05.274 --> 00:10:05.485 the, 84 00:10:05.514 --> 00:10:07.434 the inspection portion we've got, 85 00:10:07.884 --> 00:10:08.695 what I did was, 86 00:10:09.955 --> 00:10:15.625 I took an account that the city could supplement us for a number of some, 87 00:10:15.625 --> 00:10:18.024 some of the hours and, 88 00:10:18.684 --> 00:10:19.014 you know, 89 00:10:19.044 --> 00:10:23.245 and I also didn't so many overtime assuming that again we with this with. 90 00:10:23.304 --> 00:10:31.764 At least getting some help from the engineering department, we could defer some of that cost. So, basically I used the only four hundred hours of our. 91 00:10:32.100 --> 00:10:38.605 Inspect your time, so that came to about forty two thousand. 92 00:10:42.085 --> 00:10:46.975 And then the rest of it is, we put some budget again to. 93 00:10:50.125 --> 00:11:01.345 Project management will include some time in there to help with the Z one, eighty two reimbursements and the next reimbursement on Z. one. A two is very important because it has the property purchased. The city is doing. 94 00:11:03.894 --> 00:11:16.644 You know, and continue to coordinate the meetings and work with the, our on the RFP side and coordinate with the potential developers, you know, never responded to the R. R. P. and meet with the developers, et cetera. 95 00:11:17.274 --> 00:11:19.674 So we, we have that project management time also. 96 00:11:19.674 --> 00:11:32.784 Some some, there's some time in here, five thousand dollars to page group to continue the funding for coordination of press conferences, improve things and provide updates to the project site. 97 00:11:33.389 --> 00:11:43.284 So we, we added that into the project management cost. And then we also there's a lot of property work that we want to get. 98 00:11:44.965 --> 00:11:52.044 That the speech is doing that is eligible for reimbursement and wanting to capture it here. 99 00:11:52.585 --> 00:12:05.544 And so we've got about fifteen thousand dedicated to continued work with canal core property and these back arrangements, 100 00:12:05.575 --> 00:12:09.414 and those properties in the private properties and, 101 00:12:09.445 --> 00:12:09.745 you know, 102 00:12:10.164 --> 00:12:11.965 and the subdivisions that are coming, 103 00:12:12.835 --> 00:12:13.495 there's a six, 104 00:12:13.524 --> 00:12:16.554 six parcel subdivision That'll happen on the back side. 105 00:12:16.860 --> 00:12:31.615 And then there's another subdivision that's gonna happen with with, you know, near to thirty three building for that development that's Viagra development site. So trying to capture all the property work and legal work related to the property and this as well. 106 00:12:31.884 --> 00:12:44.664 So so, those components together to sixty, four thousand, seven hundred, and that's again, we have room under the grant. 107 00:12:44.725 --> 00:12:57.445 This is under Z, one, eighty two and one eighty two is a hundred percent reimbursable because the match matches higher matches are the work that the city's doing with department of state. 108 00:12:57.750 --> 00:13:03.835 So the cities work provides the match for this. And this is why we get a hundred percent reimbursement on this one. 109 00:13:08.365 --> 00:13:14.544 Alright, if there's no questions, can I get an motion to approve amendment? Number? Six. 110 00:13:18.595 --> 00:13:25.465 Make a motion one second, Mary, Mary, all favor. 111 00:13:28.195 --> 00:13:39.264 Both so moved you're off I think now, Paul, I think Jack are you going to talk about? I will. 112 00:13:39.294 --> 00:13:49.465 I'm the a gentleman that is actually on this phone call with us. Craig Williams he can give a I'll ask him to Craig. Are you there? 113 00:13:57.090 --> 00:14:08.934 Hang on for me. Okay. So, yep. Are you there? Can you hear me now? Yeah. Okay. I can rest of the group. Okay. 114 00:14:08.995 --> 00:14:20.274 I'll just give a quick introduction so Craig approach me a number of months ago, regarding a sentence called a day package. 115 00:14:21.985 --> 00:14:36.985 So the, the state, the New York state museum owns this boat and this motor ship, and they are in a position that they are looking to find it a permanent home. 116 00:14:37.195 --> 00:14:49.375 If they can't find a permanent home, then what they will do is end up thinking it's emerging it out in the Long Island area to create some type of a natural reef. 117 00:14:49.884 --> 00:15:03.924 Now, the, the, the, if they do that, though, there is a substantial payback that the state would would have to do to offer to the federal government for around three million. 118 00:15:04.044 --> 00:15:17.634 Three point two million dollars were the repairs. That the state had applied to a grant for. And received, and the work was done, so, and then the cost to submerge it clean it out. Scrub it down. 119 00:15:17.634 --> 00:15:19.315 Would be another five hundred thousand. 120 00:15:19.975 --> 00:15:30.445 So, myself, Brian, Lisa and Paul this morning, while we're talking with Craig regarding this, I'm just trying to get some answers. 121 00:15:30.445 --> 00:15:44.154 So, there's, there's a lot of B*** in the air on it, but it is a, if, if you looked at the information that Alison had sent out, you will see that, you know, what? The size of it. 122 00:15:44.934 --> 00:15:56.815 So, it is, it is approximately a two hundred and sixty feet long and I would basically cover roughly half of one of the sides of the Balkans. 123 00:15:57.504 --> 00:15:57.835 So, 124 00:15:57.835 --> 00:15:58.404 while Craig, 125 00:15:58.404 --> 00:16:04.105 if you wanna just throw in a minute or two of your perspective, 126 00:16:04.105 --> 00:16:06.504 and maybe a tad of the history, 127 00:16:06.504 --> 00:16:12.174 and it does have quite a bit of ties to Utica, 128 00:16:12.355 --> 00:16:14.034 made its made in voyage of here, 129 00:16:14.034 --> 00:16:14.695 et cetera. 130 00:16:14.904 --> 00:16:18.715 So, Craig, if you can throw some, some information out, that'd be great. 131 00:16:19.825 --> 00:16:22.794 Sure can you hear me okay? Yes. 132 00:16:24.475 --> 00:16:24.804 Again, 133 00:16:24.804 --> 00:16:28.590 it has tremendous significance and national importance time, 134 00:16:28.585 --> 00:16:32.759 the National Register impact when it came into New York waters, 135 00:16:32.754 --> 00:16:34.615 after we rescued it from Erie, 136 00:16:34.615 --> 00:16:42.684 Pennsylvania in two thousand five it was immediately put on the National Register represents the type of C*** that the barge canal was actually built for it, 137 00:16:42.990 --> 00:16:44.485 he's giant motor ships, 138 00:16:46.110 --> 00:16:46.794 you know, 139 00:16:46.794 --> 00:16:50.004 at the junction locking you to kind of the nineteen thirties. 140 00:16:50.095 --> 00:17:03.294 This is the type of crafts you would have seen most often from the nineteen sixties to the nineteen nineties. It's kind of winter birth was alongside Neil freight house in the harbor. 141 00:17:04.494 --> 00:17:18.355 I certainly remember going down to visit it. Then the hope is that it could return to you to come. It's about to celebrate it's hundred's birthday if you will. 142 00:17:19.855 --> 00:17:26.875 And that would be a great plus to be able to to rescue it again. So, Jack that about, does it. 143 00:17:28.164 --> 00:17:42.805 Yeah, so again, we're we're looking. We had always talked about the, the harbor Bay. You know, at least having the look as it has been for a number of years as a working harbour. So to have an actual motor ship park. 144 00:17:42.805 --> 00:17:47.005 There would be another tourist attraction. 145 00:17:47.005 --> 00:18:00.265 If you will, so I'm not looking for any type of a vote a, yay or nay just, you know, if you do have some thoughts or some questions, come up, then please send them on to me. 146 00:18:00.265 --> 00:18:06.654 And we'll work to get them answered as quick as we can just kinda an f. 147 00:18:06.654 --> 00:18:06.924 Y, 148 00:18:06.954 --> 00:18:07.255 I, 149 00:18:07.255 --> 00:18:08.035 to everybody, 150 00:18:08.035 --> 00:18:10.974 that that this is out there again, 151 00:18:10.974 --> 00:18:14.964 there's a ownership liability and purpose, 152 00:18:14.964 --> 00:18:18.865 et cetera that needs to be determined and our team is, 153 00:18:19.045 --> 00:18:19.674 as I mentioned, 154 00:18:19.674 --> 00:18:20.454 Paul myself, 155 00:18:20.454 --> 00:18:20.934 Lisa, 156 00:18:20.934 --> 00:18:30.234 and with the help of Craig and another woman that is head of the canal society recently, 157 00:18:30.744 --> 00:18:35.394 we'll try to figure it out some of these questions and see if there's a, 158 00:18:35.634 --> 00:18:41.545 what possibilities exists through New York state to fund this and to keep it going it. 159 00:18:41.755 --> 00:18:55.525 It would, at an essence, come free to us. It does run. It does move. It it does everything it should, it does need a paint job at this current time. And Lisa was on earlier. I'm sorry with a Gere. 160 00:18:56.755 --> 00:19:10.285 A table table and so it is out in Waterford, New York Lisa says that's that's pretty close to where she is. So her and jera are going to take a look at. 161 00:19:10.285 --> 00:19:24.714 It just kinda get an idea and then report back. So, again, it's, there's a lot of information there. I appreciate it if you kinda go through it and again, weigh in on, you know, Naser just, you know, general feelings or our thoughts. 162 00:19:24.714 --> 00:19:25.015 So, 163 00:19:25.704 --> 00:19:26.005 again, 164 00:19:26.005 --> 00:19:26.964 just at this point, 165 00:19:26.964 --> 00:19:27.234 just an, 166 00:19:28.464 --> 00:19:28.825 a, 167 00:19:28.855 --> 00:19:29.154 some, 168 00:19:29.154 --> 00:19:29.454 you know, 169 00:19:29.484 --> 00:19:30.805 it would be an attraction, 170 00:19:31.470 --> 00:19:42.565 they have pictures there in the information that Allison had sent that show that you can get into the hall of it and have displays history, 171 00:19:43.464 --> 00:19:44.184 kiosks, 172 00:19:44.184 --> 00:19:44.785 et cetera. 173 00:19:44.785 --> 00:19:55.134 So, you know, I'd appreciate your time to take a look at it if, by chance I'm, you know, I'm guessing from the conversation with Craig and and Brian. 174 00:19:55.255 --> 00:20:02.664 Brian Stratton is very familiar with this is it's on his list. The governor knows about it. 175 00:20:03.535 --> 00:20:10.525 Brian met with Brian Stratton that has met with a mayor last week, sometimes to discuss it also. 176 00:20:10.890 --> 00:20:23.035 So what, if by chance, I don't need a few takes it that it will find itself some self submerged somewhere outside of Long Island. So, it might be a last ditch attempt to do anything with that. So. 177 00:20:23.994 --> 00:20:31.224 Got it any questions thoughts comments please send them on to me and that's really, okay. 178 00:20:31.224 --> 00:20:31.375 So, 179 00:20:31.375 --> 00:20:34.795 you don't need a motion I think Jack no, 180 00:20:34.795 --> 00:20:35.305 I again, 181 00:20:35.305 --> 00:20:42.505 we're in kind of in the investigative stage there was some good ideas brought up by Jerry today and then, 182 00:20:43.525 --> 00:20:43.795 you know, 183 00:20:43.795 --> 00:20:53.755 the rest of the group is just gonna kinda follow through we'll make contact with Craig and the canal society's a new executive director, 184 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:55.494 kind of figure it out some of the people, 185 00:20:55.494 --> 00:20:59.934 and some of the partners that might be able to be involved with this. 186 00:21:00.924 --> 00:21:09.384 It does seem that once you get the word out on this phone in particular, that, that, you know, people get interested in it. 187 00:21:09.384 --> 00:21:21.805 So, again, we'll be reporting back to you in the next months as to where we stand and what what we're ferreting out. Okay. Alright. 188 00:21:22.434 --> 00:21:37.345 Maybe, it's just if anybody has any particular specific questions, if they had a chance to look at the materials are just to add to the list of items that Jack and the team will be reviewing with Craig. So, maybe just some general question. 189 00:21:37.345 --> 00:21:49.674 Exactly. Thank you. It's a unique opportunity to feature this boat and because of and highlight the harbor is significant harbor and the barge canal. 190 00:21:50.275 --> 00:22:01.464 It just and Craig knows this and the new canal society president by the way he is a, what's her name again? 191 00:22:01.464 --> 00:22:09.775 Craig Catherine Garda camp Catherine Gordo and she has joined the meeting. 192 00:22:09.924 --> 00:22:18.265 So that was nice to hear, but they obviously couldn't certainly couldn't do this without partnership without state and federal money's supporting this. 193 00:22:18.714 --> 00:22:20.035 And we talked about, 194 00:22:20.095 --> 00:22:20.545 you know, 195 00:22:20.605 --> 00:22:24.414 maybe if it was ever gonna be resident of the unit harbor, 196 00:22:24.805 --> 00:22:32.964 the better position might be on the West side and the National grid side versus taking up space on the other on the, 197 00:22:32.994 --> 00:22:33.384 you know, 198 00:22:33.775 --> 00:22:34.345 besides that. 199 00:22:34.345 --> 00:22:39.684 We have development plan. And we have a master plan, so it will be a lot. 200 00:22:40.224 --> 00:22:54.444 This is a major partnership that was gonna work, but it is very attractive idea that we certainly would would want to probably promote additional discussions. And in my mind. 201 00:22:56.694 --> 00:23:02.125 Yep. Thank you. Paul Yep, Jack do you wanna do the auto review? 202 00:23:04.045 --> 00:23:14.664 Sure, and I apologize for the short notice I with the auditor horse as fast as I could to try to get this to you in time for this meeting. 203 00:23:14.904 --> 00:23:29.154 So I'm not sure if anybody has, you know, had the chance to go through it. I did present the, the draft to vent and obviously he's a CPA and very good at what he does and he didn't have any issues with it at the time. 204 00:23:30.115 --> 00:23:36.865 So I would entertain. I, I would ask for a motion to approve it. I suppose. 205 00:23:36.894 --> 00:23:49.795 And I, I, I have another week before I need to input that information into the, the parents reporting system, the authorities budget office reporting system. 206 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:58.224 So, if if there are any major questions concerns, you know, I will work on addressing them at that time. 207 00:23:58.884 --> 00:24:10.644 But if if we can get it passed and then subject to any questions that people may have and again, another final review from Vin then, you know, I, I would appreciate that. 208 00:24:14.394 --> 00:24:20.515 Okay. We just got it. So, I'm assuming most people haven't had a chance to look at it. 209 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:32.964 So, if you're comfortable moving at subject to being able to talk to Jack prior to submission, I would look for a motion. If, if you're not I mean, do we have to have this in by then? 210 00:24:34.555 --> 00:24:39.894 Well, the has given all the authorities a two month leeway? 211 00:24:39.894 --> 00:24:53.545 Well, where they were, they were always hoping that everybody's going to be in time, or on time they I did provide a two month a window. So this would be the end of of the two months. 212 00:24:53.964 --> 00:25:04.164 So I am looking to definitely have it done. I I don't like to have us on the naughty list so okay, this is Mary. I'll make the motion. 213 00:25:04.164 --> 00:25:17.335 We accept that contingent upon final review by you then prior to submission. Okay. Okay. And again, if anybody, it does have any questions after they review it. 214 00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:29.545 Obviously, then would be the, you know, the biggest authority here, but, you know, I, I would take questions, et cetera. Okay. Thanks, Mary can I get a second on that? 215 00:25:35.095 --> 00:25:47.875 One thanks, Yvonne all in favor. Both. Okay so most committee updates, they say you're gonna grab this ball. 216 00:25:49.105 --> 00:25:56.095 Well, a little all of us yes, I have Melanie on the line. Bob was actually moving his son to college today. 217 00:25:56.095 --> 00:26:06.654 So today, so the, on the canal Corporation, Melanie was just emailing with Peter Casper. 218 00:26:06.654 --> 00:26:15.085 You want to jump in Melanie on that is on. 219 00:26:20.005 --> 00:26:33.684 Or Melanie. I'm here. Can you hear me? Okay. Okay. Okay so I did have conversation with Peter cast for the beginning of the summer. I had asked him for an update on the status of the mold abatement at the site. 220 00:26:34.404 --> 00:26:47.964 He's going to check on that and get back to me. He did advise that the frack tanks were removed and maybe Paul, you know what that means I wasn't quite sure what that meant, but he said he was waiting for some kind of confirmation letter from D. 221 00:26:47.964 --> 00:27:00.295 C, that the intention of canal corpus for them to be out fully on August, twenty, twenty one. So, that's that's where we are right now. 222 00:27:00.295 --> 00:27:10.464 The contract is not yet executed, but I think once we have a status on the mould abatement and agreement, that that move out date works, we can probably move forward with that. 223 00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:24.055 Okay, any update on when we're looking at transferring title of the property are we going to wait until the mold is done or? 224 00:27:26.664 --> 00:27:40.494 So they've provided it kind of a current status on the environmental condition of the building following the slide. And I think subject to the mold abatement, if that satisfactory and Paul, I'm gonna defer to you a little bit on this. 225 00:27:42.115 --> 00:27:56.904 Once it reaches a condition that the LBC is comfortable with. And we can agree on what that condition is. We should be ready to move forward and then move to closing understanding that can now Corp will be occupying a portion of the property even after closing. 226 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:11.515 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're just they were supposed to update their survey. We haven't got that update and we haven't seen that and then they were supposed to begin abatement and the baby was getting, not include the wooden structure addition in the back. 227 00:28:11.515 --> 00:28:18.684 We're trying to get ship to just the mouse that their basement was gonna basically remove drywall. 228 00:28:18.684 --> 00:28:30.595 And anything that was affected by the floods, you know, hopefully they'll start to move a little quicker on that. Alright. 229 00:28:32.154 --> 00:28:42.954 National grid I think, going on with them. No, we haven't really heard too much about their substations unless probably you've heard anything, but I haven't. 230 00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:56.605 Gotten any updates from them well, we have we have a representative, right? Yes, I know. 231 00:28:56.994 --> 00:29:03.204 You know, I've heard that there's plans to do some work at the station relocation. 232 00:29:04.404 --> 00:29:09.984 And I have not seen anything on there as far as the final designs. 233 00:29:10.944 --> 00:29:23.755 I know there I've heard there's plans are in the works, but I can reach out for an update on that and be prepared to to answer some of that next the next round. 234 00:29:26.065 --> 00:29:36.384 The less we knew on that was they were looking at trying to get a plane permits so that might be where it is just so, as you're jumping into it. 235 00:29:43.134 --> 00:29:49.255 Oh, yes really are belly garden Paul? 236 00:29:51.384 --> 00:30:02.039 You know, they haven't they're still interested I think Lisa we but our last communication with them was what couple? 237 00:30:02.035 --> 00:30:14.335 Maybe early July, and we put together a milestone schedule with them, and they are in agreement with it. 238 00:30:14.335 --> 00:30:24.835 So, we were working with Brian Thomas and getting some appraisal's done for that property and new parcel. 239 00:30:24.835 --> 00:30:38.365 And because of the sort of the, the creation, and the new parcel, the appraisal taking a little bit longer because it's just a little bit more complicated. But we did get some information back from Frank DiNardo last week. 240 00:30:38.365 --> 00:30:52.585 I think Brian sent it to us that new car. So, this dsa one right? dsa one and the three three area. Yep. Yep. So we're we should have those appraisals. We hope soon. 241 00:30:52.855 --> 00:31:05.394 Frank was looking for some feedback from us and we Paul, and I just spoke this morning actually, so we're getting them that feedback. And once we get that, we can start to move into the schedule that we have with MBTI, which is. 242 00:31:07.825 --> 00:31:18.265 Basically, property transfer, we need to subdivide out that property. Obviously we need to sell it to them and put this all contingent on the canal court, getting property to canal Corp. 243 00:31:18.265 --> 00:31:30.865 so, it's a little some of this is contingent on when we get the property from canal core. So, a little intertwined with them still. But we do have a schedule of moving forward with them that we're gonna try to hit. 244 00:31:34.555 --> 00:31:49.434 They reinforce that. They have moved off their number of I mean, they're still committed to a minimum of twelve million dollars of investment, the thirty three building, and then adjacent to it. So right. Okay. 245 00:31:49.974 --> 00:31:57.444 Do we have timeframe on That'll be done or Frank is just working on? I think Brian. 246 00:31:59.545 --> 00:32:09.055 Yeah, I was expecting them last week. I know his son had a surgery on his back yesterday, but I will call him tomorrow and. 247 00:32:09.990 --> 00:32:14.244 Find out where the okay. Great. Thanks, Brian. 248 00:32:18.390 --> 00:32:26.244 The design and engineering, you know, a lot of that actually called this covered, but I will for all inclusive. 249 00:32:26.244 --> 00:32:35.694 We do we are working under the latest state grant, and we're working through some of the design of the prominent area, which is thirty feedback from the law. 250 00:32:36.444 --> 00:32:51.174 And our design team are working with the engineers from rebranding gear, and they're working through some initial design concepts there. They're actually going to be onsite Friday with Paul this Friday looking at it. 251 00:32:51.234 --> 00:33:02.154 So, probably, in September, we'll be able to share some thinking on the design aspects of it. We're still sort of putting the putting our thoughts together on that. But it's, it's exciting. 252 00:33:02.154 --> 00:33:06.595 We're actually advancing the design of a, of a public space along to bulk head wall. 253 00:33:11.184 --> 00:33:18.025 Anything there that you wanna know I, I think financed me last time, we were together about, you know, Where's the going what's the next steps? 254 00:33:18.025 --> 00:33:18.505 And I think, 255 00:33:18.535 --> 00:33:18.954 you know, 256 00:33:18.984 --> 00:33:26.154 our main thing now is the next thing would be to get Arctic ice demolished and to start to, 257 00:33:26.214 --> 00:33:26.755 you know, 258 00:33:27.684 --> 00:33:32.125 that area for the property swap with visions and, 259 00:33:32.154 --> 00:33:32.335 you know, 260 00:33:32.335 --> 00:33:34.704 stockpile some soul up on top for dsa. 261 00:33:34.704 --> 00:33:46.884 One. We, they say one, you know, we definitely bring in so this year, whether we can spread it or not, is gonna depend on them permitting, you know, we're. 262 00:33:47.755 --> 00:33:55.375 We're going back and forth in there, all of a sudden giving us a little bit issue that sounds a little bit reminiscent of Nano center enough. 263 00:33:56.069 --> 00:34:08.065 But, you know, they're they're, I'm hesitant on some things because there's not a developer plans that there's, you know, the, the plans or not all the development plan. 264 00:34:08.065 --> 00:34:21.894 So, you know, we're working through that. I'm, I'm, I'm confident that Steve at clear is gonna get through that. And we're gonna, you know, get our wetland permit and get people to get the fill, but we are, we're, you know, that is slowing us down a bit. 265 00:34:24.235 --> 00:34:31.074 We did, you know, we've, we've, we've preserve some areas of wetland now that we were preserving. 266 00:34:32.215 --> 00:34:41.425 So, that does take a little bit of space, the dsa one but at the same time, we're gonna be need less mitigation and we're gonna buy mitigation credits. 267 00:34:41.425 --> 00:34:50.514 We're gonna buy a wetland credits at a, at a kind of another site, kind of a wetland bank site or whatever and so That'll cost us less. 268 00:34:51.054 --> 00:34:58.344 So the more we preserve, unless we have to pay mitigation, so, you know, there's least there's a little bit of benefit there. 269 00:35:02.695 --> 00:35:07.224 Alright we on the property acquisition. 270 00:35:09.179 --> 00:35:19.434 Yeah, I believe so I don't think we have anything wandered design and engineering. Do Paul. No, we're just we're trying to get where it's going. We're trying to get the city to demolish the, the one building in a way. 271 00:35:19.434 --> 00:35:29.244 Hopefully, that's gonna happen next week, and we're will be, you know, that you'll see construction pretty heavy for a few months out there to get the road done. 272 00:35:31.315 --> 00:35:44.784 And I think that the sound like a broken record, but when the city does go out there, demolish those buildings, you have to just make sure we're documenting their time and equipment usage accordingly so, week, because it's the unkind match on the grant. Yep. Yep. 273 00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:51.925 brian's all over that. Good once, like, right yes. 274 00:35:52.405 --> 00:36:03.565 In terms of the demolition starting my understanding from Mike Mahoney, is that we're waiting on a a permit from the council sent in the twenty five dollars, and we're just waiting on the permit. Yeah, there's two. 275 00:36:03.954 --> 00:36:17.844 There's there's also a, quite a bit of material one of the buildings that's remaining from the canal Corp, and we just want something in writing stating that they have no interest in any of the material that's in there. 276 00:36:17.934 --> 00:36:28.914 And we're free to do with it as we see fit. Okay. We're just waiting on that. I'll get that. Yeah, there's two permits. One of them is a work permit, which is the twenty five dollar one. The other one's a demo permit that. 277 00:36:29.275 --> 00:36:35.454 We provide the plans and actually whatever the, the, the canal Corp submits tonight to get the demo permit. 278 00:36:36.594 --> 00:36:51.114 They just gave us comments from this meeting started and they look pretty minor. So I'm anticipating get the demo permit this week. So we should be on schedule that the mouse it. Yeah early next week. But I, I will, I'll make sure they sign up on. 279 00:36:51.114 --> 00:36:53.724 What's in there? Brian that's a good point. So. 280 00:36:56.005 --> 00:37:07.014 Okay, property acquisitions anything going on there? Yes, this is Melanie. I can jump in. Can you hear me? Yep. 281 00:37:08.304 --> 00:37:17.304 Okay so in connection with the visions property, which is obviously related to new parasol. We have three contract pending. Right now. 282 00:37:18.235 --> 00:37:29.425 The first is between the harbor entity, which is selling to the city the city, then will enter into a contract to sell to the L. D. C. 283 00:37:29.905 --> 00:37:43.644 and then, possibly up to twelve months from now, we'll have the third transaction, which is the selling to the new Patel entity. So that those are the three contracts all three are in final form. 284 00:37:44.425 --> 00:37:54.144 And the expectation is that they will be executed on Monday, the twenty fourth, assuming that the city has gone through the process. They need to go through. 285 00:37:54.775 --> 00:37:58.465 I spoke to Kate Hartnett earlier in the week, 286 00:37:58.465 --> 00:38:10.675 and she said that she had taken care of noticing the public hearing and she understands that the board should be resolving to convey the visions property to the on the twenty fourth. 287 00:38:11.485 --> 00:38:14.934 So we should have those executed contracts. 288 00:38:16.284 --> 00:38:29.815 Ready to go on Monday what would happen next is the seller would sell to the city when we have updated title work and then the city would immediately turn around and convey that same parcel to the 289 00:38:31.704 --> 00:38:34.795 the title works the process and we have surveys already. 290 00:38:35.454 --> 00:38:44.034 So, we're hoping that that won't take more than two weeks. Yourself. Are you gonna need me to sign anything? My only on Monday? 291 00:38:46.525 --> 00:39:01.465 We will need, yes, we, we, we will need a signature two contracts, the contract with the city and then the contract with the owner of the new parcel. Okay. Well, just let me know. 292 00:39:01.824 --> 00:39:13.434 I can Cirque yeah, I can circulate those signature pages and contracts. Are you available on Monday? Most of the day? Okay. I can get something out. 293 00:39:18.295 --> 00:39:29.664 And can you just confirm that as to the new parcel? The understanding is that would that would be some time away that that final transfer of land for new parcel. Yeah. 294 00:39:29.664 --> 00:39:42.864 And it would be, although I am looking at a plan that maybe try to expedite that a little bit if we can get the Arctic Arctic ice demolished and see how much feel there is a little bit of the wetland problem. 295 00:39:42.864 --> 00:39:56.844 Then is behind that. So that the, there's a little bit of a wetland within the new parcel, but not much so, but I do want to get that work done. You know, I, I wanna get it done this season still. 296 00:39:57.389 --> 00:40:00.295 Okay. Alright. 297 00:40:02.755 --> 00:40:12.385 Anything on, or is that just kind of stuff? Well, I know sue code. Actually, we're hoping for mid September. 298 00:40:13.585 --> 00:40:23.635 Okay and I've asked, I've asked the attorney to just kind of get the documents lined up in the closing statement started so that we can prepare for that. Okay, good. 299 00:40:29.304 --> 00:40:34.074 All right old business worth landscaping. You J. 300 00:40:38.664 --> 00:40:50.635 Yeah, I'm a royal landscaping went out cleaned up the area, put some pots of flowers out there around the, a, and a city view, because, you know, their harbor point sign. 301 00:40:51.775 --> 00:40:57.715 So that came to a little over twenty seven hundred. So they have a, the check is in the mail for them. 302 00:40:58.405 --> 00:41:11.065 It looks nice if you haven't driven by their so, you know, it's just a yeah, you're trying to clean it up. Make it look nice and presentable as we go forward and best flip. 303 00:41:14.784 --> 00:41:21.355 You can try to put the bill under the one of the deck if you if you do I gotta know. Yep. 304 00:41:22.014 --> 00:41:34.644 I have it coming out of the first line of credit, so yeah, maybe we'll talk about that we got other things to talk about too. Okay, alright. Great. 305 00:41:36.085 --> 00:41:47.155 Anything else any new business, any old business, but I don't know if venue opened up with the, the reimbursement we got in during this covet period it was lose that for you Paul. 306 00:41:51.414 --> 00:42:03.775 Well, so, I mean, that thing went in. Well, it's strange thing. I mean, they had the numbers since December, we gave them a heads up, but the number was gonna be because they wanted to kind of reserve money and assuming all the paperwork would get through. 307 00:42:03.775 --> 00:42:12.565 So, they've had the number for the first reimbursement for the buckets since December, but formally went into February soon after the gda was negotiated and signed. 308 00:42:13.375 --> 00:42:23.275 And then it took a lot of time, and this enhanced protocols that has a thunder that they had submitted. 309 00:42:23.275 --> 00:42:35.784 If you just wouldn't believe what they asked for, I mean, lean wavers down to two hundred dollars and, you know, everything was checked more than once. And this is on top of the monitoring that the bake was doing with their construction monitor. 310 00:42:35.784 --> 00:42:48.835 So we had two monitors construction monitors monitoring everything we did looking at all the paperwork on this bucket job. It was completely insane, but finally, we got through it all. 311 00:42:49.525 --> 00:43:00.534 And of course, there was a, there was a little bit of a worry that the covet would delay this longer. And we made a lot of appeals that was not financially capable. 312 00:43:01.675 --> 00:43:01.914 You know, 313 00:43:01.914 --> 00:43:04.494 doing this financing without the reimbursement, 314 00:43:05.905 --> 00:43:11.545 the interest that was being bared the line of credits being bloated you know, 315 00:43:11.545 --> 00:43:11.724 we, 316 00:43:11.784 --> 00:43:20.364 we had to get the reimbursement and Kaitlyn shamara from in Buffalo was a big proponent. 317 00:43:21.684 --> 00:43:35.514 She pushed really hard. The Lars got involved and some other people, but but I think Caitlyn really helped us. And we got now they've even talked about a partial payment on reimbursement one and they didn't even do that. 318 00:43:35.545 --> 00:43:46.135 They paid us the full amount of over four million dollars, and the first reimbursed every penny for. So now, you know, we need to do we're closing out title. Go. 319 00:43:46.135 --> 00:43:58.585 We'll get to have their final bills in the next few, several days here, and we'll do one more reimbursement package and, you know, hopefully that goes faster than this one. And then we'll be, we'll be completely reimbursed in buckets. 320 00:43:59.545 --> 00:43:59.905 So, 321 00:44:01.434 --> 00:44:01.585 so, 322 00:44:01.585 --> 00:44:06.175 that took a lot of financial stress off of this, 323 00:44:06.235 --> 00:44:06.505 you know, 324 00:44:06.505 --> 00:44:08.394 this is this is big numbers for, 325 00:44:08.969 --> 00:44:09.775 for private, 326 00:44:09.775 --> 00:44:10.135 for, 327 00:44:10.614 --> 00:44:13.525 to be handling in a private institution MBT, 328 00:44:13.735 --> 00:44:15.659 to be extending based, 329 00:44:15.655 --> 00:44:16.614 just on a grant, 330 00:44:17.094 --> 00:44:17.304 you know, 331 00:44:17.304 --> 00:44:17.994 the collaterals, 332 00:44:17.994 --> 00:44:18.894 the grant paperwork. 333 00:44:18.925 --> 00:44:27.324 That's what, so that it's a bit it's a big deal to get that back and keep things moving, right? 334 00:44:28.554 --> 00:44:39.085 Sure, Mary having that protocol done, though, you know, allows us easier access into the state with, with future grants. Should we apply for them? 335 00:44:39.085 --> 00:44:49.014 So, you know, it was a pain in the B*** to go through it, but it'll be advantageous for us going forward. Right okay. 336 00:44:49.585 --> 00:45:00.565 The next meeting date, the September sixteen th, the for PM hopefully in person, but we'll see. So there's nothing else can I get a motion to adjourn. 337 00:45:08.994 --> 00:45:18.775 Okay. Second time. Second the motion. Thanks. Okay. All favor? Alright. Alright, thanks. 338 00:45:18.775 --> 00:45:29.364 Everybody hopefully, this time, so yeah, thanks. Bye. Bye bye. Thank you. Thanks. Bye. Bye last night. 339 00:45:31.224 --> 00:45:34.434 Melanie Morocco has left the meeting.