WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.979 Then we say proper with scarf. 2 00:00:04.979 --> 00:00:09.778 I think I'm going to have you worked for Trump? I put it on for the call. 3 00:00:13.433 --> 00:00:26.484 Joe work in the coven problem here. No, it's actually, I actually need a scarf today. I guess it's supposed to get 6 inches up north. Oh, my God. 4 00:00:27.210 --> 00:00:35.159 Yeah, it's pouring pouring rain here right now. Welcome to New York is. 5 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:46.530 The 1, I can, I can put it I have I have the drawing, I can throw up on the screen if you'd like, I have it already. 6 00:00:46.530 --> 00:00:53.640 Agenda agenda. Yep. I have that. To give me a 2nd around. I forgot everything. 7 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:59.670 Just, as you do that, can you just go around who is in the room? Please. 8 00:00:59.670 --> 00:01:05.579 No, it didn't happen. 9 00:01:05.579 --> 00:01:10.109 And, yeah, she was. 10 00:01:10.109 --> 00:01:15.989 All right, we just need to confirm for the minutes who's in the room. 11 00:01:15.989 --> 00:01:20.519 Okay, we have bogged in we have. 12 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:29.609 Mayor. 13 00:01:29.609 --> 00:01:41.129 And Paul yeah, and then Jack, are you recording at this point? 14 00:01:41.129 --> 00:01:47.340 I have yes, Brian was here already just to. 15 00:01:47.340 --> 00:01:56.189 Grab the agenda. Okay. 16 00:01:56.189 --> 00:02:00.930 But why is the mayor here? All he does is cause problems. 17 00:02:00.930 --> 00:02:09.120 Care of it. 18 00:02:10.289 --> 00:02:17.610 Maker okay, well, then we do have a quorum. 19 00:02:17.610 --> 00:02:23.069 Okay, let's call meeting order again. I will have the agenda. 20 00:02:23.069 --> 00:02:27.449 And approval of minutes of which meeting was it. 21 00:02:27.449 --> 00:02:32.490 Rich 1717? Yep. 22 00:02:33.689 --> 00:02:37.169 Get a motion to approve the minutes of our 17. 23 00:02:41.219 --> 00:02:45.180 I'll go that. 2nd yeah. 24 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:52.080 Mary okay, all in favor opposed. 25 00:02:52.645 --> 00:02:58.735 Resolution all you want to take us early. Okay. We'll get hit right up front with this. 26 00:02:58.735 --> 00:03:11.155 Okay, so grant application are creating the grant Z way to achieve a grant. Our state development expires. 27 00:03:11.370 --> 00:03:20.250 This year, December 31st, so we're trying to finish all the work out there that we need to do that grant. 28 00:03:20.250 --> 00:03:24.569 Which is a few different items it's. 29 00:03:24.569 --> 00:03:34.710 Number 1, it's the filling of the 1 area filling out the wetland areas, because we're about to get a permit to fill those. 30 00:03:34.710 --> 00:03:41.159 It's going to be bringing the parcel that visions is going to buy. 31 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:45.569 Upgrade a stone water based and. 32 00:03:45.569 --> 00:03:55.500 In the city of the future about, and we're also going to do a little bit more work on the foundation in 1917 building. 33 00:03:55.500 --> 00:04:02.729 Reinforce the opinions, everything that's good underneath the building. But what we want to do is basically build a retaining wall. 34 00:04:02.729 --> 00:04:07.259 We're going to take the side of the foundation, which is open up and close it and. 35 00:04:07.259 --> 00:04:11.669 With some structural panels, so that we can fill. 36 00:04:11.669 --> 00:04:19.560 On the roadside of this advocating building, so you can bring that up the great. So it'll be easier. Entered the building from the roadside. 37 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.490 Entered those drive cars from the roadside, so. 38 00:04:23.490 --> 00:04:30.269 So, we're doing those aspects of the construction. I'll start out with the there's 2 resolution period. Was that construction? 39 00:04:30.269 --> 00:04:35.879 So, I'm going to construction side to do those elements. We could have gotten back out to the bid. 40 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:39.119 But we really don't have the time to do that. 41 00:04:39.119 --> 00:04:44.069 So, what we're, what we're looking to do is to have title. Okay. 42 00:04:44.069 --> 00:04:48.449 Who's contract is still open and building foundation. 43 00:04:48.449 --> 00:04:54.059 Is to have them execute the remaining work under change order. 44 00:04:54.059 --> 00:05:01.228 So, you know, the change order would be up to 340,000 dollars capital. Those items. 45 00:05:01.228 --> 00:05:08.278 And we went over the procurement policy with the primary. 46 00:05:08.278 --> 00:05:12.478 Yesterday, and we are in compliance with the. 47 00:05:12.478 --> 00:05:17.369 Procurement policy to do the change order in a number of different ways. 48 00:05:17.369 --> 00:05:28.108 1, there's a exit exception here as far as timing what caused the delay they would cause the cooperation higher would be the grant. 49 00:05:28.108 --> 00:05:33.209 That unique conditions to allow award. Remember, this is. 50 00:05:33.209 --> 00:05:45.928 Was compatibly before so this is a change order. Not like we're still sourcing. Really but still, we're following the procurement policy anyway, because we're going back to the foundation and doing more work. That was a contractor. They built the foundation. 51 00:05:45.928 --> 00:05:49.559 They have current warranties and everything else. 52 00:05:49.559 --> 00:05:56.759 Current liabilities associated with that foundation. We, we don't want to mix contractors and put somebody else out there. 53 00:05:56.759 --> 00:06:07.228 To do that we'll do this on 1 side. So we think from that aspect to it's another aspect we care about policy allows us to tell you. 54 00:06:07.228 --> 00:06:14.879 So, I guess the 1st solution would be to what we need a resolution to approve a change order. 55 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:20.278 I will get a contract for the build 17 building foundation. 56 00:06:20.278 --> 00:06:23.728 Or amount up to 340,000 dollars. 57 00:06:23.728 --> 00:06:28.528 Good any questions I know. 58 00:06:28.528 --> 00:06:36.238 We dealt with I don't got harbor walls the overages and they were more than generous with us as far as. 59 00:06:36.238 --> 00:06:39.658 Working with getting everything settled, so. 60 00:06:39.658 --> 00:06:46.168 That would be great to work with so that anything that anybody else work, they. 61 00:06:46.168 --> 00:06:53.038 Great contractor. Yeah, I had a question. Did you come up with them? This is Jack. I'm sorry. How'd you come up with that? Figure? 62 00:06:54.509 --> 00:06:59.129 Well, and we're kind of backing into this figure so. 63 00:06:59.129 --> 00:07:06.838 In the engineer estimate, we should be able to fit all those, all those components where we're talking about. Actually, it's a little under. 64 00:07:06.838 --> 00:07:14.759 The engineering aspect will go through final basically negotiations with tie all get equity, gave them the documents to change our documents. 65 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.928 The plan sheets basically what it is Jack is. 66 00:07:18.928 --> 00:07:22.468 There is a see for. 67 00:07:22.468 --> 00:07:26.129 450,000 dollars left. 68 00:07:26.129 --> 00:07:34.288 And we reserved for, I think that's right. We reserve 40,000 for the purchase of job's chemical. 69 00:07:34.288 --> 00:07:40.588 So that's 410. you have a consultant change, which is the next thing and present 70. 70 00:07:40.588 --> 00:07:47.009 And the remainder is 40, so we really backed into it about. 71 00:07:47.009 --> 00:07:50.459 Gives us a little bit of cushion with the contractor. 72 00:07:50.459 --> 00:08:02.639 But that's all we'll have to integrate. Yeah you're going to make sure that we have the contract. Once we have the plan sheet for us. We have the file allowed. So, Phil. 73 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:07.559 Let's we have all those costs items, we're going to check all of it and make sure. 74 00:08:07.559 --> 00:08:16.798 I think giving us a good price. Right? But they just hit us up for what 70 grand last time right? Because there's so much. So now it's another 370 grand, right? 75 00:08:18.449 --> 00:08:25.228 Well, I mean, so we're up to 440,000 dollars or something we did. 76 00:08:26.249 --> 00:08:30.418 So, I have something in house, right right. 77 00:08:31.588 --> 00:08:37.619 Okay, so I foundation category there was a change order number 1. 78 00:08:37.619 --> 00:08:44.339 Page order number language that when we looked at the building, and we've actually got 117 building. 79 00:08:44.339 --> 00:08:48.538 Deteriorated there's being that we couldn't see when it was on the ground. 80 00:08:48.538 --> 00:08:54.808 They were some of them were caught off way. Some of them together. 81 00:08:54.808 --> 00:09:00.178 So, the, the building, the 17 building, the beams underneath needed repair. 82 00:09:00.178 --> 00:09:08.668 So, what? So, that change order covered the cost of change you got a number that was being very patient and. 83 00:09:08.668 --> 00:09:15.778 Right. You know, they gave us the cost we verified and Darren engineers to make sure the cost was. 84 00:09:15.778 --> 00:09:20.759 Reasonable and then remember he asked them often that same change order. 85 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:29.219 We asked them to demolish the guys, so it was, but they, they, they charged us for that right? I mean, that wasn't free. 86 00:09:30.418 --> 00:09:34.889 No, no, no, it was a great good for now it was it. 87 00:09:34.889 --> 00:09:39.509 So, I'm just saying that, you know. 88 00:09:39.509 --> 00:09:46.318 We need to get a point where we know how much we've got to spend on this building and be done with it. That's all. 89 00:09:46.318 --> 00:09:50.759 You know, so that's all, it's getting expensive. An extra half a 1Million dollars. 90 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.629 That's a lot of money. I think that's all I'm saying. 91 00:09:54.629 --> 00:09:57.989 I think we're doing now in the billing check. Is that really. 92 00:09:57.989 --> 00:10:05.999 What we're doing is if you, if you've been out there you see, the foundation is kind of it's those tempers underneath. Yeah, there's. 93 00:10:06.533 --> 00:10:20.303 To peer wall peers, and there's spaces in between each peer fill against that. We want to fill on that side of it. We have to we have to close that 1 side of the foundation in order to fill against it. 94 00:10:20.303 --> 00:10:25.163 So, with the fund piece, right now there's an extra step to allow us to fill. 95 00:10:25.739 --> 00:10:30.688 And put fill next to the building so exceed your access from now size. 96 00:10:30.688 --> 00:10:37.438 All right, so you guys are engineers, but we didn't know this before we didn't know we needed the extra fill before we went into this. 97 00:10:38.668 --> 00:10:44.849 This wasn't part of the original plan. They didn't see that when they are 1st, figuring it out. 98 00:10:45.774 --> 00:10:58.793 It was once we got the road and we'll take a look at the usefulness of that building and it was actually an idea on the line. We looked at the way we can utilize that building in the future. 99 00:10:59.333 --> 00:11:11.423 And this looks pretty a really good idea to allow us to get into those days by. So it's going to increase the value. So when their private property that goes out to our P. 100 00:11:12.089 --> 00:11:16.859 And we have a private developer looking at that building, it's going to be a lot more attractive to them. 101 00:11:16.859 --> 00:11:29.278 And right now we're just putting basically advocating all up in the snow for that building will go in under the next phase. While we do the promise that we get the problem that. 102 00:11:29.278 --> 00:11:36.298 That's what we'll actually fill it. Well, we're going to use if while they're out there to do the crew paying off. 103 00:11:36.298 --> 00:11:40.288 Okay. 104 00:11:40.288 --> 00:11:49.168 I assume possible. Okay. Yeah. It has been okay with anything regarding the foundation. 105 00:11:49.168 --> 00:11:53.729 So, yeah, yeah so you won't even. 106 00:11:53.729 --> 00:12:03.239 So between the film and the skirting, you won't even notice it there so it's going to be underground or anything that's exposed will be skirted it. Eventually. 107 00:12:03.239 --> 00:12:12.629 Yeah, yeah, they're the 5 and that design execution deck that will all be skirted and covered. Just so that. 108 00:12:12.629 --> 00:12:15.839 No, that's that was negotiating the defense. 109 00:12:15.839 --> 00:12:23.938 You know, if we could have moved it, I mean, we bring a fully developed and so forth. 110 00:12:23.938 --> 00:12:28.019 Let me look at it from the. 111 00:12:28.019 --> 00:12:38.219 If it can be both you snare now we spend a lot of placing voters and doing so far. 112 00:12:38.219 --> 00:12:48.658 That was that there is. 113 00:12:48.658 --> 00:12:57.749 But Paul, the other, the other piece of that though, too, is that wants it in that location too? It was part of our. 114 00:12:57.749 --> 00:13:12.568 In order to tear down all the other buildings that we want to tear down, and we told Shippo, we were going to preserve that and the 33 building that was, that made them okay. To to move forward with this. Otherwise we'd probably still be in negotiations with Shippo would be, my guess. 115 00:13:14.339 --> 00:13:18.058 Okay, any other questions. 116 00:13:18.058 --> 00:13:24.058 That's now, can I get a motion to approve the. 117 00:13:24.058 --> 00:13:28.708 Resolution to work again, undertaken a 182. 118 00:13:28.708 --> 00:13:32.038 Oh, yeah, right so. 119 00:13:32.038 --> 00:13:35.068 Going to be dangerous. 120 00:13:35.068 --> 00:13:38.938 Favor. 121 00:13:40.589 --> 00:13:45.028 Post next year. 122 00:13:45.028 --> 00:13:53.759 Yeah, that well, I'll be right there, that that was the contract portion of that reporting. So the consultant portion is. 123 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:58.259 Amendment number 8, 8 to 70,000. 124 00:13:58.259 --> 00:14:05.068 Again, I made like, 340, 70, and then 40 reserve for the property acquisition of Jones, chemical. 125 00:14:05.068 --> 00:14:09.359 So, in the consultant. 126 00:14:09.359 --> 00:14:16.048 Amendment 8, there's additional project management for this. Basically the spinal year the grant. 127 00:14:16.048 --> 00:14:23.849 Which includes this is time for project management, public, outreach, state vacations, press, releases. 128 00:14:23.849 --> 00:14:28.349 Obviously meetings, meetings, progress, meetings, stakeholder, etc. 129 00:14:28.349 --> 00:14:35.219 We've got a budget in here for property acquisition assistance so it's basically. 130 00:14:35.219 --> 00:14:44.458 Portion of the speech work related to getting the jobs chemical deal negotiations negotiate, negotiated in property purchase. 131 00:14:44.458 --> 00:14:48.298 It'll include some kind of discussions with regard to the ongoing. 132 00:14:48.298 --> 00:14:53.969 For mediation that has to occur there in an agreement with the current order to continue that work. 133 00:14:53.969 --> 00:14:59.219 But relative to the remediation, and then we've got a budget in there. 134 00:14:59.219 --> 00:15:04.318 And the property acquisition for 7,500 dollars, more work. 135 00:15:04.318 --> 00:15:14.729 Survey some pretty survey we're also anticipating, we might need some topo on the National grid site. We'll get into some of that over there. 136 00:15:14.729 --> 00:15:19.499 I believe we function here. 2nd test. 137 00:15:19.499 --> 00:15:25.948 Their task is so we've got preparation design for phase. 2 is a 1 so. 138 00:15:25.948 --> 00:15:33.058 What's your main to do there? Is we pretty much for a lot of permitting it's been through a number of iterations. There's just there's a small budget in here. 139 00:15:33.058 --> 00:15:38.129 To get through the final step of the core of engineers to get the final weapon and permit. 140 00:15:38.129 --> 00:15:43.078 And then it's the change order documents that I talk about on the engineering side. 141 00:15:43.078 --> 00:15:46.979 Is the plan sheets for retaining all the foundation. 142 00:15:46.979 --> 00:15:54.269 Low grades on the details that storm water basin, which should be adjacent to the round about. 143 00:15:54.269 --> 00:16:01.558 And then coordination with DC, for the approval of the bill, we've already tested, and I was going to come from lights. 144 00:16:01.558 --> 00:16:07.708 You know, and unfortunately ended up having to pay for the bill to get to felt we needed for technical reasons. 145 00:16:07.708 --> 00:16:14.548 We ended up having to go to lights, but we need a lot less than we initially thought we have. 146 00:16:14.548 --> 00:16:20.308 Some some clean materially over there in the last few projects. So we've lessened in 5 cubic yards. 147 00:16:20.308 --> 00:16:23.788 But we do need this better quality material that go over there. Now. 148 00:16:23.788 --> 00:16:27.359 Also included in their. 149 00:16:27.359 --> 00:16:31.828 And we'll get into this more because they're meeting progresses, but. 150 00:16:31.828 --> 00:16:35.999 Uh, there's some time in here for a long to do a refinement of the. 151 00:16:35.999 --> 00:16:41.609 Harbor or the, the South South West side of the harbor, or the. 152 00:16:41.609 --> 00:16:49.589 National grid is to refine them off they use fields concepts. Everybody's aware of all the skills concept. 153 00:16:49.589 --> 00:16:54.389 But it's another step forward and that's 1 of the reasons why the mayor's here. 154 00:16:54.389 --> 00:16:57.958 To have a discussion today. 155 00:16:57.958 --> 00:17:01.469 So that's a right that's work on these fields. 156 00:17:01.469 --> 00:17:09.778 There's also construction based services to oversee the filling them in filling out. The dsa wanted to final filling. 157 00:17:09.778 --> 00:17:13.709 And this construction is star motor base and oversee that. 158 00:17:13.709 --> 00:17:20.308 And then lastly, we've included a pretty good budget in here. 159 00:17:20.308 --> 00:17:23.878 Or some special renderings. 160 00:17:23.878 --> 00:17:27.689 It's important now that we get high quality renderings. 161 00:17:27.689 --> 00:17:32.759 So that we are to look at different agencies. 162 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.528 Federal state agencies come in to help fund the remaining of portions of the work. 163 00:17:37.528 --> 00:17:40.798 And we can sell what we're doing with these renderings. So we. 164 00:17:40.798 --> 00:17:47.009 Well, looking to do a high quality rendering and the future pedestrian bridge that connects to the sports district. 165 00:17:48.058 --> 00:17:58.409 Well, yeah, I've got the National grid demonstration park and then we use of that the, the water park concept. 166 00:17:58.409 --> 00:18:03.808 At least 3, and we've also put in here again. It's a little bit. 167 00:18:03.808 --> 00:18:18.413 Yeah, and this, it also it was ready to do a rendering of the stadium potential soccer, soccer stadium sports district, because it connects to the harbor district and it's all part of what part of the package here. 168 00:18:18.413 --> 00:18:18.834 So. 169 00:18:19.199 --> 00:18:27.358 It's those renderings and I think that's everything in here. There's a little bit of time. We have to do a periodic review report. 170 00:18:27.358 --> 00:18:35.308 To report the DC that says that we're in compliance with the site management plan ones under the PC called the site management plan. 171 00:18:35.308 --> 00:18:41.638 We had to review that we're in compliance and we have to sign off on that every couple of years. So they're looking for. 172 00:18:41.638 --> 00:18:44.699 A compliance report, so we got to produce that. 173 00:18:44.699 --> 00:18:49.919 You got to add just the amount of time, but we do need a little bit more like. 174 00:18:49.919 --> 00:18:55.288 So, all that together is 129,700. 175 00:18:55.288 --> 00:19:00.989 For the amendment 8, so we need a resolution for. 176 00:19:00.989 --> 00:19:06.269 To a large amendment 8 to Leland consulting team. 177 00:19:06.269 --> 00:19:10.078 3,959,000. 178 00:19:10.078 --> 00:19:13.798 Can I ask you a question? Yep. 179 00:19:13.798 --> 00:19:18.328 I see all these drawings and everything and. 180 00:19:18.328 --> 00:19:23.249 I still don't see any peers for the boat hookups or anything like that. 181 00:19:23.249 --> 00:19:32.878 I just don't want it to get, like, the old Proctor high school field where there was no bathrooms for anybody to go to bathroom. I mean, 1 of the biggest things on this is is to bring boats and. 182 00:19:32.878 --> 00:19:41.219 I would think with these new renderings that you wanted, that you're going to be using, especially in being that you're on that side of the canal you'd want to include that. 183 00:19:43.229 --> 00:19:54.419 So, there are some facilities for the Mafia fields, or? No docking docking. Oh, talking about documenting product high school, build a beautiful field a couple of years ago. 184 00:19:54.419 --> 00:20:02.878 They never put a bathroom in for anybody to use. I just I was just making a point, whereas we're building this, but a big part of it is the voting aspect. 185 00:20:02.878 --> 00:20:16.344 And we keep missing exactly where that's going to fit and how it's going to look and I just want to make that a sticking point on my end because I think it is Jack on the prominent design. 186 00:20:16.374 --> 00:20:29.124 We do, we do have it indicated in the prominent design, you're going to see in a 2nd, the area that we're talking about now for the fields, but we do have it. We do have it on the prominent design. Absolutely. All right. Thanks. Number departments. 187 00:20:30.653 --> 00:20:34.104 That goes through the city, Brian Thomas remission. 188 00:20:34.409 --> 00:20:41.219 Harvest steak right that was for the pool decided to read in the prominence. So we're heading towards. 189 00:20:41.219 --> 00:20:48.328 Full designs plans for the marine and private that's all in there. All right. Thank you. I appreciate. 190 00:20:48.328 --> 00:20:59.878 So nothing else can I get a motion to approve the consultants agreement? 191 00:20:59.878 --> 00:21:03.868 Thanks, Jack. 4th, it. 192 00:21:06.388 --> 00:21:10.048 Okay, all in favor. 193 00:21:10.048 --> 00:21:15.209 Oh, okay. Let's get to the good stuff. 194 00:21:15.209 --> 00:21:18.479 Hello. 195 00:21:18.479 --> 00:21:23.999 Yep. 196 00:21:23.999 --> 00:21:30.088 But I think Melanie melanie's on, right? You want to update a Melanie on your conversations with them. 197 00:21:30.088 --> 00:21:35.519 I just forgot his name. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 198 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:41.759 So, as you know, we've been going back and forth with him. We, we asked for a 500 dollar a day increase. 199 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.989 If they stayed past February 2008, they pushed back on that. 200 00:21:45.989 --> 00:21:52.048 What they have suggested is that they will be out on February 28th of 2022. 201 00:21:52.048 --> 00:21:58.259 And that beginning, March, 1, they will pay an increased daily rent of 160 dollars a day. 202 00:21:58.259 --> 00:22:03.808 Which translates to about 4,800 dollars a month. If they stay past February 2008. 203 00:22:03.808 --> 00:22:06.868 But he assures me they will be out on the 28th of February. 204 00:22:06.868 --> 00:22:11.159 So that is the last open item in the contract. 205 00:22:11.159 --> 00:22:18.749 They are anxious to get the contract signed and get closed on the title and then they would stay under an occupancy permit. 206 00:22:18.749 --> 00:22:26.638 Until November 2021 at no cost and then begin paying 2000 dollars a month for December, January and February. 207 00:22:28.348 --> 00:22:36.028 So, we're, we're left with the kind of penalty rent of 10,160 hours a day, starting March 1. 208 00:22:38.818 --> 00:22:42.269 And I already agreement with that. 209 00:22:42.269 --> 00:22:47.759 I'm sorry, is there an end date for that that says, you know. 210 00:22:47.759 --> 00:23:00.179 Extended, I'll look for it doesn't give them the right to extend it. They say they're going to be out on February 2008. we haven't drafted the language. We were trying to reach agreement on the dollar amount. 211 00:23:00.179 --> 00:23:04.648 So, we can certainly have it put an end date in there. 212 00:23:04.648 --> 00:23:15.179 Um, but the thought is that they would be leaving on, or soon after the 28, and after that they would be staying without in a way trust passing on our property. 213 00:23:15.179 --> 00:23:23.909 And they have no intention of doing that. So then why did they make it 154 dollars a day? And now, like, 500 dollars a day if they're so. 214 00:23:23.909 --> 00:23:35.219 So, Ben, I'd be an auditor, they said that they couldn't, they couldn't rationally accept that fee and that they didn't even think it would be enforceable their public benefit corporation. They really can't. 215 00:23:35.219 --> 00:23:39.898 Get into that kind of penalty rent so. 216 00:23:39.898 --> 00:23:49.828 They said they built in a buffer. I think we had talked about April 1, being the drop dead date for us to have them out. And that's why they agreed. They would leave February 28. 217 00:23:54.388 --> 00:23:57.808 This morning work. 218 00:23:57.808 --> 00:24:02.999 Okay. 219 00:24:02.999 --> 00:24:08.578 Point is look. 220 00:24:08.578 --> 00:24:12.298 Works for no, I mean, ticket. 221 00:24:13.348 --> 00:24:28.013 Well, part of it and also, remember too that they have so I see Rob there. Hi, Rob we talked to, you know, we talked to rob about their timeline too, and correct me if I'm wrong. But Rob sent you there. 222 00:24:28.163 --> 00:24:30.624 This timeline worked with you if they were up by February, 223 00:24:30.624 --> 00:24:30.683 2008, 224 00:24:30.683 --> 00:24:34.943 but they also said if you needed to get in there earlier in the 33 building, 225 00:24:34.943 --> 00:24:35.574 and do anything, 226 00:24:35.574 --> 00:24:42.294 that was okay because their offices are going to be in that little building off the southwest corner of the 33 billing, 227 00:24:42.294 --> 00:24:45.953 they're not going to be in the 33 building that piece of machinery is going to be in there though. 228 00:24:47.548 --> 00:24:52.288 So, you know, that's just for consideration unless unless Rob, I'm off on the timeline. 229 00:24:52.288 --> 00:24:57.778 We said, how can we work? I talked to rob work at it. There's equipment in a building. 230 00:24:57.778 --> 00:25:02.398 They agreed to move and Melanie, maybe you want to ask Peter this, but yeah. 231 00:25:02.398 --> 00:25:10.409 They agreed, they said we'll move it when you want us to move it, but they only want to move it once. So, if we said you got, you know, that's. 232 00:25:10.409 --> 00:25:17.788 That piece has to be out of there by whatever we say November 1st, they said they will move it right? 233 00:25:18.838 --> 00:25:30.778 And I can say Peter of that. Yeah. At least from my end, I mean, obviously haven't talked with an error recently within the last month here. I mean. 234 00:25:30.778 --> 00:25:39.808 We'll be able to get things and faster here or just go with that timeline. I agree with the mayor. I mean, if that's the date that probably works. Fine. 235 00:25:39.808 --> 00:25:42.868 You know, if that's the date, you know, but. 236 00:25:42.868 --> 00:25:50.788 I'm good with that. Whatever, but you do need the piece of equipment removed by a certain date. 237 00:25:50.788 --> 00:25:57.989 In advance of February 2008, I think whenever you get into rehab and adding. 238 00:25:57.989 --> 00:26:02.159 Dave, and Paul can certainly talk to you and more like this but, I mean. 239 00:26:02.159 --> 00:26:12.838 We got to get the breaks up and go on the have to come with historical tax credits as well. So there's a process. I think that process can move pretty swiftly. You know. 240 00:26:12.838 --> 00:26:24.298 At least happier, but I think once you get into construction, that stuff's going to have to be out of there. Yeah. I don't really see how you feel that can do both of those work around them. 241 00:26:24.298 --> 00:26:28.108 Hey, Melanie, I think if you remind me Peter, that. 242 00:26:28.108 --> 00:26:33.328 We have, um, at some point, Rob's gonna say I'm ready and it might get it. 243 00:26:33.328 --> 00:26:39.328 I'm guessing it's probably going to be before 2008 2022 that machinery has to get out of there. So. 244 00:26:39.328 --> 00:26:43.858 Yeah, I'm just wondering how much time they're going to need, you know, advance notice to remove it. 245 00:26:43.858 --> 00:26:48.538 And that's why I'm wondering if we should start with a date, that's even earlier than you think you might need it out. 246 00:26:48.538 --> 00:26:58.019 Stop who are in the process moving trains right? Downtown children and you want to be good and we're going to have the appointment. 247 00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:07.169 It really has to be planned out. Well, why don't we find out how long it would take them to get it out of their modeling and then we'll back back from there. 248 00:27:07.169 --> 00:27:10.618 Okay, I'll have that conversation. 249 00:27:12.269 --> 00:27:20.519 And then correct me if I'm wrong. But so, Rob, you just said, you're gonna probably advanced the drawings and you're going to want the tax credits between you're going to need drawings. 250 00:27:21.564 --> 00:27:35.693 We have drawings, you're probably going to need as built, et cetera for the building so you're gonna need access relatively soon. I would guess to the building is definitely more quick. I answered a lot of this. 251 00:27:35.693 --> 00:27:40.943 I know Oracle tax credits. There's basically 3 steps. 252 00:27:41.308 --> 00:27:47.489 And that base that is about 40% completion on your prints. So. 253 00:27:47.489 --> 00:27:52.288 I mean, we haven't even really sat down and went through all of this stuff, but. 254 00:27:52.288 --> 00:27:55.709 You know, I don't see it taking a long time on my end. 255 00:27:55.709 --> 00:28:03.808 You know, like, when I say a lot of time, I mean, we could have everything I would assume, put together, you know, 6 months, 8 months would be. 256 00:28:03.808 --> 00:28:11.068 Probably more they conservative enough I guess I would just want to confirm with Peter Melanie that. 257 00:28:11.068 --> 00:28:16.769 Um, if you know, Rob in, um, Davis, architect want to get in there. 258 00:28:16.769 --> 00:28:23.249 You know, even June or may, you know, soon, next month, um, that they're able to. 259 00:28:23.249 --> 00:28:32.368 Okay, but we are okay on the pricing, the increased rent of 160 a day past the 28 and we agreeable to that. 260 00:28:34.199 --> 00:28:38.368 Jack. 261 00:28:38.368 --> 00:28:45.449 I mean, if if what I've been told is that. 262 00:28:45.449 --> 00:28:51.028 Even that 164 seems it is really isn't reasonable in the sense that. 263 00:28:51.028 --> 00:28:55.798 They really don't even have to pay it. I guess. I don't know. They, they need to get out of there. 264 00:28:55.798 --> 00:29:04.138 Impossible so, I just think we ought to need to use every means we have to just to move them along whatever that is. 265 00:29:04.138 --> 00:29:13.108 Yes, I think we're going to go through the immunity because you're going to see designs for. 266 00:29:13.108 --> 00:29:20.278 The recreational side of the IRA that maybe we can take it out a scenario. 267 00:29:20.278 --> 00:29:24.118 Then I had 1 question on it or or. 268 00:29:24.118 --> 00:29:33.959 Whoever that was it if we have to get in there, can they put up like a temporary tent on the outside and move the equipment on the outside just to get the hell out of there? So they could. 269 00:29:33.959 --> 00:29:38.249 They could do their thing, the architects, and whoever has to go in there under the construction side. 270 00:29:39.358 --> 00:29:44.009 I mean, they said they wanted to move it once and which I get it because that's a multi time. 271 00:29:44.009 --> 00:29:47.338 What what what is what is the equipment? Yes. 272 00:29:47.338 --> 00:29:53.398 I remember what they said it was, I don't think it's the design. 273 00:29:53.398 --> 00:30:03.028 I think is your intention to get it out at the same time? They're not to do themselves. They can't get it out of there by February 28th. Oh, yes, absolutely. 274 00:30:03.028 --> 00:30:14.548 Yeah, they will be completed in the accelerated. 275 00:30:14.548 --> 00:30:22.528 Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just progress, right? Getting it out of there and, you know, that's great. So. 276 00:30:23.788 --> 00:30:27.659 I think we're okay. Evolving objects. 277 00:30:29.159 --> 00:30:32.338 I'm fine. 278 00:30:32.338 --> 00:30:37.259 All right do you need a motion on that or just. 279 00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:47.459 Note that I don't think we do. I think we already authorization to execute negotiate and execute the contract. So. 280 00:30:47.459 --> 00:30:55.439 Okay, just putting the minutes that general discussion soon, and no objections were raised to the. 281 00:30:55.439 --> 00:31:01.499 160 dollars to the fee for staying over. 282 00:31:01.499 --> 00:31:04.558 Got it Thank you. 283 00:31:04.558 --> 00:31:08.338 So, good. 284 00:31:08.338 --> 00:31:14.068 Does anybody want to talk about the multi use the advanced for? They're taking there? Yeah. 285 00:31:14.068 --> 00:31:17.578 Do we base with you after? They're not on the screen here. 286 00:31:17.578 --> 00:31:20.969 Uh, huh. Yep, I can, um, as soon as I find it. 287 00:31:20.969 --> 00:31:24.388 Why are you guys here? 288 00:31:24.388 --> 00:31:29.159 I don't know where. 289 00:31:29.159 --> 00:31:35.098 Unless you want me to stop sharing for just a 2nd, I'll have it. Give me 3rd. 290 00:31:35.993 --> 00:31:45.894 Okay, that's what I want us. 291 00:31:54.659 --> 00:31:58.769 Everybody see it. 292 00:31:59.878 --> 00:32:06.838 There is this concept it's been refined a little bit. It's not different than what we've been. 293 00:32:06.838 --> 00:32:14.548 Talking about it's every 5 minutes some thinking that I think, which is. 294 00:32:14.548 --> 00:32:18.148 Is is a big interest in a city. 295 00:32:18.148 --> 00:32:22.078 And the administration. 296 00:32:22.078 --> 00:32:25.439 And really push the Maltese fields. 297 00:32:25.439 --> 00:32:30.028 Pass it along and into design and it's the reality thing. 298 00:32:30.028 --> 00:32:34.169 So, he's always been a partner, but I think. 299 00:32:34.169 --> 00:32:39.868 That they're going to be a real big partner as we move this side of the. 300 00:32:39.868 --> 00:32:43.588 Of this assigned to Arbor through Excel. 301 00:32:43.588 --> 00:32:51.028 So, we've had some meeting with the city on some of the ideas of all these fields. 302 00:32:51.028 --> 00:32:58.439 And I think there's also been some updates that the whole board isn't seeing. So. 303 00:32:58.439 --> 00:33:01.979 I'm not sure what's the best way to go through all of this but. 304 00:33:01.979 --> 00:33:07.798 On the far West side, you see the big box there. 305 00:33:07.798 --> 00:33:12.808 Big rectangle. That's that's where the. 306 00:33:12.808 --> 00:33:20.338 National grid wants to move. Well, that's well, we're the National we'll move the substation. 307 00:33:20.338 --> 00:33:26.159 Right now it's you can see the cost of your stop off, builds up above a circle. 308 00:33:26.159 --> 00:33:31.679 It's up there right now, and they want to move it to this property and we had a. 309 00:33:31.679 --> 00:33:37.919 A national grid for about a year and a half, because they want to put it was right in front of the parking. 310 00:33:37.919 --> 00:33:45.989 This out to the Parthenon, which we always felt was the premier location for fields and activities. 311 00:33:45.989 --> 00:33:56.669 On that side, so they did move it. I don't know where they are right now. We need a new update from them, but that's where they want to put it. 312 00:33:56.669 --> 00:33:59.699 Below there you see a little red building. 313 00:33:59.699 --> 00:34:03.088 And you see a little road edition there. 314 00:34:03.088 --> 00:34:08.369 Yes, that account the idea. 315 00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:13.739 Didn't realize they did this, but they kind of they hadn't had control that property. 316 00:34:13.739 --> 00:34:18.088 And they sold it to Scenic railroad. 317 00:34:18.088 --> 00:34:23.579 And and racy, the greater Rose has been working. 318 00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:30.449 I'd be like, 3 years now. I don't know what's taking so long. They're either, but they're working on a maintenance card. 319 00:34:30.449 --> 00:34:37.048 And that facility, but we realized I told them that. 320 00:34:37.048 --> 00:34:44.429 It was, we were about 3 months too late. We were hoping to get control that maybe would have a shot at it but. 321 00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:54.298 We were a little late to the table, but anyway, it's There'll be there. I would imagine. It will. It'll be a nice cap site. 322 00:34:54.298 --> 00:35:01.829 All the engineers is doing the design and we're working with Dan, because we're working out some sewer. 323 00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:09.418 Access to, or need clarification on that side. So that's another story we're working trying to get that done. 324 00:35:09.418 --> 00:35:13.108 But, um, so yesterday, uh. 325 00:35:13.108 --> 00:35:16.199 The or. 326 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.228 Soccer fields. 327 00:35:19.228 --> 00:35:24.628 The whole idea here and this 1 is this but. 328 00:35:24.628 --> 00:35:28.708 And apparently envisioning next, like, Nexus outdoors. 329 00:35:28.708 --> 00:35:36.268 Where someday the Calvin met this I don't know if you're seeing the community foundation vision plan, but they talking about. 330 00:35:36.268 --> 00:35:41.518 A combination, baseball, soccer field near the inside the house. 331 00:35:41.518 --> 00:35:47.608 We're hoping that that would be built out some days maybe as a soccer stadium. 332 00:35:47.608 --> 00:35:51.599 So the idea here is, you would have a turn that play outdoors. 333 00:35:51.599 --> 00:36:00.599 Where you would have these tournament fields, and then maybe Sunday championship game would be played at the future new stadium on the other side. 334 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.349 But we really need you need the 3 or 4 fields. 335 00:36:04.349 --> 00:36:07.949 In order to accomplish that term, it plain. 336 00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:12.599 Then the softball fields. 337 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:17.849 Something that's the mayor was very adamant and city. 338 00:36:17.849 --> 00:36:22.768 Department has really felt that a piece of this. 339 00:36:22.768 --> 00:36:25.768 A multi you skilled Catholics also as the host. 340 00:36:25.768 --> 00:36:35.489 Softball tournaments, and so, you know, if we're able to move that, if someone's their substations move, it brings up a lot of our plan. 341 00:36:35.489 --> 00:36:45.268 It wasn't available before, you know, over there at the branch, the harbor, and open up some room to create a softball field Catholics. There. 342 00:36:45.268 --> 00:36:48.869 And then when last value, while the triangles close. 343 00:36:48.869 --> 00:36:52.829 Right now that's a hard ball sized field this in there, but. 344 00:36:52.829 --> 00:36:58.199 It can be shorten up a little bit. Maybe it was where the championship softball field. 345 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.259 So, you know, when you turn the play. 346 00:37:01.259 --> 00:37:06.268 Championship team, so like the final game, they can move over to that field. So. 347 00:37:06.268 --> 00:37:11.369 It's, it's kind of the same thing. It, you know, what's happening in Texas where. 348 00:37:11.369 --> 00:37:15.509 Whether it be hockey, stock, soccer, or inner soccer, the cross. 349 00:37:15.509 --> 00:37:18.659 The championship game moves over to the hotel, it's. 350 00:37:18.659 --> 00:37:22.199 It's creating this Nadia got indoor outdoor. 351 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.318 You know, sports. 352 00:37:25.318 --> 00:37:30.898 Back up in the state, you know, then I think it could be something amazing and that. 353 00:37:30.898 --> 00:37:38.338 You know, let's say a gorgeous I would just say we are looking for a. 354 00:37:38.338 --> 00:37:43.108 A destination, not only for our residents, or people coming off the true way. 355 00:37:43.108 --> 00:37:50.818 And give him a reason, not only to come here work, play live. This is something that's a kind of. 356 00:37:50.818 --> 00:37:53.878 The vision for the last 101,520 years. 357 00:37:53.878 --> 00:37:58.378 We had the opportunity to make it happen at this point. We all know that soccer. 358 00:37:58.378 --> 00:38:04.349 Has exploded in this area we also know that softball is maintain. 359 00:38:04.349 --> 00:38:09.809 It's a level of excitement the option would be at some point. 360 00:38:09.809 --> 00:38:22.110 With a baseball field, that would be kind of like a title base if we decide at this point. But when you bring in an extra center, you're bringing a water part bringing in all this family activities. 361 00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:27.150 With adults and family, it really gives you the opportunity. 362 00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:40.530 To generate a tremendous amount of revenue for the city for the region, and make a state of the facilities. So, people talking about, as they talk about going to Williamsburg or some of these other. 363 00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:45.449 Areas and around panic, we're, we're, we're trying to make this iconic. 364 00:38:45.449 --> 00:38:50.010 Destination, but I don't have the time to say we're going to do it in 5 years. 365 00:38:50.010 --> 00:39:04.405 I want to put this out within 2 years. Yeah, I think the matrix vision, I actually think it's spot on when you look at, you know, there's only 1 means of Ingress and egress. So I think it'd be get into stadiums. 366 00:39:04.405 --> 00:39:08.784 In our point. It becomes a problem and you're looking at 5 to 7,000 people going in. 367 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:20.849 And we all know if you sports, a lot of the games are staggered, and it's not nearly as inundating when it comes to the part. And you really only need probably 450 spots for what's shown there. 368 00:39:20.849 --> 00:39:29.610 Plus the pedestrian bridge, and Paul's point braces Nexus is purchasing software, scheduling software. 369 00:39:29.610 --> 00:39:39.179 But it aligns with the mayor's vision of really getting people to our city more. So than necessarily a sports team where we kind of this. 370 00:39:39.179 --> 00:39:46.500 You know, reuse each other's money, because they go to the team, which just create a huge impact. 371 00:39:46.500 --> 00:39:58.260 But this is really getting people from outside of our area into the heart of Utica, and it actually strengthens the hotel industry, the restaurants bars. But more importantly, some of our tourist assets. 372 00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:03.750 Like, you to cloud to sue things of that nature, which is really kind of in Paramount and everything. 373 00:40:03.750 --> 00:40:14.789 You know, I want to I know you guys asked this last over a little bit. I think the 1 critical step in my, in my opinion. 374 00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:24.030 Is when we did access, we basically did exactly what you guys did, where we prove that 3 sheets of ice considerably work there on that site. 375 00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:28.980 And then we have rendered out what Nexus could possibly look like. 376 00:40:28.980 --> 00:40:38.159 Obviously, when we're building today was nothing like sexual rendering and I think it's really important to. 377 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.880 Blue sky this thing with the pedestrian bridge, the fields. 378 00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:46.769 There's a lot of great sites out there for our country worldwide sports. 379 00:40:46.769 --> 00:40:56.340 If you guys can Google that you can really see what's out there. And people come from all over the water park is another vision that, you know, maybe to all of us. 380 00:40:56.340 --> 00:41:04.289 You know, it's kind of like a long shot 5 years ago, as we say here today and I actually think with vision that. 381 00:41:04.289 --> 00:41:15.599 And you could sell on the mayor pat on that, is it also is adding an element of adventure part to it with rock climbing and and different games, and things of that nature. And we are going to have. 382 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.619 350,000 kids and families coming in to adjust. 383 00:41:19.619 --> 00:41:30.360 Nexus indoors you add this to it. You're really kind of doubling that capacity to have a lot more. Soccer events can have hockey on those core fields. 384 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:35.639 And then the last thing that I guess I touch on is that part done, you know. 385 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:42.690 Reimagining math what that could be, I think should be some of the most exciting stuff that comes out of the group. 386 00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:52.110 I mean, just looking at it there, you could do an element of a top golf coming out where it's netting or something off the north side of that. You can have a roll scores. 387 00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:58.769 You know, to the point, you know, the fields that are going to be used, probably soccer starts in March. 388 00:41:58.769 --> 00:42:03.840 And goes til November around those fields purpose. 389 00:42:04.585 --> 00:42:17.485 But with the, like, if you get into a rope Square, something like that, you can use that year round or not top off the franchise but something similar to that. You can bring people to that all the time. 390 00:42:17.485 --> 00:42:21.114 Because a lot of this team building, corporate things of that nature. 391 00:42:21.389 --> 00:42:25.409 Um, and I think it's going to be really exciting for the group to kind of. 392 00:42:25.409 --> 00:42:30.420 Think what that could possibly be. That's fantastic. I did. 393 00:42:30.420 --> 00:42:35.099 Get to that part, but yeah, that's part liability, but we're often. 394 00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:40.440 That and the size that the options for reuse are incredible. 395 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:51.690 And then the water park, which is in an area is been talking about for place some time. That's what we put there by the street. That's an actual size that. 396 00:42:51.690 --> 00:42:54.719 I took that from Palmer. 397 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.139 Massachusetts and and built yet, but that was. 398 00:42:58.139 --> 00:43:08.070 That was the size of the 1, they were anticipating there and then, you know, fits in it and it's actually city property over there. And then part of that is the chemical. 399 00:43:08.070 --> 00:43:11.699 It's really only that we could do is a parking lot. 400 00:43:11.699 --> 00:43:17.369 Because of the there's a lot of collection system underneath there and. 401 00:43:17.369 --> 00:43:27.090 It goes out to a trailer that's in that green spot right there. So we have program that for parking is really the best thing we can do there, but that gives us. 402 00:43:27.090 --> 00:43:33.719 Spaces and that's fine. And, you know, I really think you can get another 400 space as easily. 403 00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:39.780 When you really get to know conceptual design, say to this these fields and look at. 404 00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:43.980 You know, I intersperse some other parking among the. 405 00:43:43.980 --> 00:43:48.030 The fields I think we can, we can achieve another 400 or something, so. 406 00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:52.920 So, I really think this is it's really blossoming into something. 407 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.010 Real special on this I think we just want to. 408 00:43:56.010 --> 00:44:01.260 Well, I've seen more degrees, right? I mean, everybody thought that it. 409 00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:05.159 I, I had a question Jack. 410 00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:08.849 You can you hear me? Oh. 411 00:44:08.849 --> 00:44:16.679 Well, I hate to someone dimensional, but where is the boat launch that you had? Right? Where those baseball fields were in the parking for the trailers and everything. 412 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:29.489 We said, can you put the arrows in that corner corner with national grid mold lunches right now? 413 00:44:29.489 --> 00:44:35.159 Over here, we're already. 414 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:47.670 In the harbor in the corner where we have to make a folder feature in that corner, there's a national grid bolt lunch right here. 415 00:44:47.670 --> 00:44:51.449 Down further yeah. All right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 416 00:44:52.224 --> 00:45:05.454 It can be up to the boats in there was with Robert Here's where I get. So, this, these are, this is a supervision and it's very, very exciting. 417 00:45:05.485 --> 00:45:08.994 And I think it's great to have the sports Mecca. 418 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:14.070 So now our next point, our next step is to Paul, just. 419 00:45:14.454 --> 00:45:29.184 Quickly last night tried to try to get down kind of the program of uses if you will, which is all of this stuff. So, now, what we're gonna do is now go to the next phase of a plan, a site plan for all of these features. 420 00:45:29.184 --> 00:45:36.864 So, Jack will make sure all that's in here. And then what's not what Paul just didn't Photoshop into here, is that we were showing Docs. 421 00:45:37.110 --> 00:45:51.869 Um, over in the harbor, and we can either come off of this wall, which is it's conversation we want to have with Rob, or we can come up the 17 building. So that's that decision is yet to be made but we do have in our prominent design. A whole Marina boat docks over here. 422 00:45:51.869 --> 00:46:01.019 You're going to need a bolt launch and I thought I thought a good place would be between the round Robin and the top up there. 423 00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:10.139 Room and then behind the fields, if they because you got to pick up trucks with trailers that these guys are gonna have to park there. 424 00:46:10.139 --> 00:46:15.570 Yeah, so that's something we're right now we're going to take all of this and refine it. 425 00:46:15.570 --> 00:46:29.215 And, um, and it is to scale, but we really need to think about additional parking, the role the Parthenon plays, et cetera. So our next step after this meeting, if everybody really excited about this, we're gonna do a site plan of these features. 426 00:46:30.264 --> 00:46:33.985 And the, the large baseball field surrounded in blue, what does that. 427 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:46.110 Is that going to be a hardball stadium? Is that what that is? Or? I think you said soft championship softball field. 428 00:46:46.110 --> 00:46:59.460 It might be, I think, in reality that would be a championships field. So they'll do the round Robin on on the, the top ones and they'll have the final game there or. 429 00:46:59.460 --> 00:47:13.679 Yeah, right yeah, but we could utilize it during these things are going to be moved around any missing components. They talked about that called launch and all that and it has to be programmed in there. Don't don't think about this is. 430 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:19.050 Is a kind of early preconception it really. 431 00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:26.130 It's kind of a carrying capacity thing and then you got to get into the design, figure it out, you know. 432 00:47:26.130 --> 00:47:31.590 But really what at this stage, we're trying to define the program and so we did this. 433 00:47:31.590 --> 00:47:46.375 Uh, and then we're gonna, um, we're gonna advance this and then continue to meet with the mayor and his staff and make sure. Everything's right. And as we move forward. So, this is Paul's trying to get all the ideas down literally, on 1 piece of paper. 434 00:47:46.704 --> 00:47:50.364 So, we'll, we'll make sure that things like that, Jack, or in this next. 435 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:55.289 Step Lisa can you send us that once it's updated? 436 00:47:55.289 --> 00:47:59.010 Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. 437 00:47:59.010 --> 00:48:07.829 I think I just want to give you an update on the substation. 438 00:48:08.425 --> 00:48:17.605 All right, we don't have that design quite finished yet, but they're telling me that we expect to have something by the end of May. 439 00:48:17.605 --> 00:48:26.364 So, I'd like to share that with everyone as soon as I can just to give everyone an idea of where that's going to be located and how it's situated. 440 00:48:27.929 --> 00:48:31.800 Perfect all right. It goes. 441 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.440 Yeah, sorry about that close the last time. 442 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:43.469 Good job. This is the mayor. 443 00:48:43.469 --> 00:48:49.170 Sure, how are you still there? I'm here. Can you hear me? Yes. 444 00:48:49.170 --> 00:48:52.530 Yeah, so as we're starting to really. 445 00:48:52.530 --> 00:48:56.820 Move this a little bit more rapidly than it has moved in the past. 446 00:48:56.820 --> 00:49:07.139 I have a very strong relationship with Melanie and and to start moving with national grid. Would you recommend that's the individual ideal it? Or if somebody else. 447 00:49:07.139 --> 00:49:11.219 I'm sorry, who are you dealing with Mayor? 448 00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:20.699 Melanie oh, oh, yeah well you can work through me. I work for Melanie. 449 00:49:20.699 --> 00:49:30.329 So, I would appreciate, you know, if there's anything going on that you would include me and I can take it to her directly. 450 00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:34.920 I know she is keen on on this project as well. 451 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:42.300 And I also wanted to report back, uh, there was a parcel that, uh. 452 00:49:43.014 --> 00:49:53.695 The city, or the development agency is interested in purchasing down there, and it's currently under review for a property transfer. 453 00:49:54.385 --> 00:50:04.284 And I understand that what they're looking to do is not an outright sale, but a 99 year lease where we would retain. 454 00:50:05.969 --> 00:50:16.349 You know, some, some management aspect to that property. So, um, and I think that's important for both the company and, and for the city. 455 00:50:16.349 --> 00:50:22.800 You don't want to take in any more liability than than you want to. So. 456 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.130 We would we would rate. 457 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:34.105 And that would be this area, which we've always been referring to his personal 789, which is that you can kind of see this faint road. 458 00:50:34.105 --> 00:50:45.505 So, this area is mounted, and there's a storm water treatment system on that, which is, we'll have to take into consideration and Paul, and I've already started talking about that so that we could use this area. 459 00:50:46.530 --> 00:50:51.480 Um, for our fields are and our parking yeah, I think our only. 460 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.780 We control, I believe it's lot 7. 461 00:50:54.780 --> 00:51:05.610 I don't believe we, we have ownership of 8 and 9, but that particular parcel that we, that we do own. I know. 462 00:51:05.610 --> 00:51:09.840 There there may be some small buildings. 463 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:18.960 Collection or some type of, uh, um, equipment there that needs to remain there. So I don't know how that sits. 464 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:31.650 In the greater plan, that's what they are telling me that there's anything there, little small buildings or that type of infrastructure needs to be maintained. 465 00:51:31.650 --> 00:51:35.280 Monitoring. 466 00:51:36.300 --> 00:51:40.110 And, like a long time. 467 00:51:40.110 --> 00:51:50.730 Maybe we can Paul, and I can cycle with you offline because we were looking for information. Like, if you had an Asheville drawing of that parcel, that would be really helpful. 468 00:51:52.889 --> 00:51:57.030 Yeah, I got. 469 00:51:58.824 --> 00:52:13.465 Hey, Tom, can you confirm for the when you say party's interested, you need the open development cooperation right? Go meet somebody else, right? Oh, no, we're it's this group right here the harbor Development Corp. 470 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.619 Okay, Tom, and they also allowed me to mention. 471 00:52:19.619 --> 00:52:23.099 When we 1st started meeting with this top station. 472 00:52:23.099 --> 00:52:28.920 It was ideas coming from the National grid side that if we, if the or the city undertook. 473 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:36.389 A bridge project that national good might be interested in participating in that. 474 00:52:36.389 --> 00:52:41.039 From the standpoint of using it for conduit for electric lines. 475 00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:45.929 It would be flood resilient. It's above ground. 476 00:52:48.150 --> 00:52:59.849 I could bring that back to the design team. Is that gonna be out what type of, um, conduits would be on there that we would be using that electric. 477 00:52:59.849 --> 00:53:03.030 For electric. 478 00:53:03.030 --> 00:53:06.119 And where would it be located? 479 00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.530 Roughly here on the screen, Tom, can you see the screen. 480 00:53:11.724 --> 00:53:25.164 Could see the green. Oh, okay. So you're roughly. So you'd take Washington where it used to go, but the railroad checks dissect that. So take Washington app and then my image is cut off. 481 00:53:25.164 --> 00:53:29.815 But the odd thing is right here. So be somewhere in this facility. 482 00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:36.780 Okay, and we try to make about that. 483 00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:44.610 Mm, okay. I'll take that back. 484 00:53:44.610 --> 00:53:48.989 Okay, I had a question on there, at least. 485 00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:58.590 Yeah, well the circular portion where the bridge is just below where your arrow is now, do we own that piece of property or does a p on that? 486 00:53:58.590 --> 00:54:03.480 Not sure the answer. Yeah. 487 00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.050 Because I know he wants to I was with him the other day. 488 00:54:07.050 --> 00:54:11.519 And he's talking about expanding in that area, so I'm just. 489 00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:17.550 I would think that we'd want to have a talk with them about that, or that's going to change, you know, where you're going to put that bridge. 490 00:54:17.550 --> 00:54:27.599 Expanding his own property purchased a fair amount of property from the original agency already. 491 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.980 The area that's shown in the rendering is currently by the city. 492 00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:37.409 Okay, good. That's good. Brian. All right, because I know he's expanding and he's talking about building a couple of buildings, so. 493 00:54:37.409 --> 00:54:42.539 Is he just right here Brian? Is it the open on the tax parcel mapping? Right? 494 00:54:42.539 --> 00:54:47.610 More or less, just more towards the parking lot. 495 00:54:47.610 --> 00:54:54.719 He goes home from his building over to the property line where the that circle is. 496 00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:02.400 But this is the site was previously sold to the bridge, but they directed out. 497 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.239 Okay, yeah, cool. And I did. 498 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:12.840 It's good that that that 1 thing I did do is I talked to the had to ramble bridges and Toby Navy today. 499 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.920 And she was fantastic. Well, she, she did say. 500 00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:26.219 Did not program anything else for that property right now? Do not proceed the approach that bridge especially if it's going to be a marquee bridge. 501 00:55:26.219 --> 00:55:30.210 And you want maybe bicycles and everything else you wanted to wind it up up there. 502 00:55:30.210 --> 00:55:40.710 Need space and you also need the aesthetics to make it something special. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, what you have now, at Nexus Nexus actually has a lease agreement. 503 00:55:40.710 --> 00:55:44.760 Uh, we have a lease agreement with the city and there's. 504 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:51.239 About 250 parking spots with that landing spot for the pedestrian bridge. This is the Paul's point. 505 00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:58.019 Effort history integration is really going to talk in South. You painted the harbor as much as least you will. 506 00:55:58.019 --> 00:56:07.230 Data marketing, you can have a vision or, you know, of that bridge, staying up higher and kind of overseeing those soccer fields even as it carries into the harbor. 507 00:56:07.230 --> 00:56:18.090 You know, it should be very cool to have and how the experience for bikes and walkers like, you know, whether you get it across country decides on 1 side of that and goes to the other in and around and it's. 508 00:56:18.090 --> 00:56:25.644 It's really important that, you know, Paul's idea there is vision is it's really enhancing that that mouth. 509 00:56:25.644 --> 00:56:34.164 If you will the pedestrian fridge very this option will be it should be a placemaking feature should be attractive. 510 00:56:34.980 --> 00:56:40.860 You're not a, not a. 511 00:56:40.860 --> 00:56:48.210 A driving trolley there, so they can pick 2 people out and drive them over as well for people that can't walk there for or anything like that. 512 00:56:49.980 --> 00:56:54.659 No, it's a bit after a bridge. Okay. Or walking. 513 00:56:54.659 --> 00:57:06.150 Because it's a fairly long walk for older. I'm just thinking guys on top of my head, just a fairly long walk if we can at least make it where we could have a little maybe. 514 00:57:06.150 --> 00:57:10.800 Like, a rickshaw, or something like that, bring in people over if there's enough room or something like that you know. 515 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:17.460 Because it's good because you're going to go uphill and then you're going to go down. 516 00:57:17.460 --> 00:57:23.099 Senior citizens in that area, they're gonna want to walk it. They're, you're going to have issues. 517 00:57:23.099 --> 00:57:28.380 Same thing else, maybe for a bike lane on it. 518 00:57:28.380 --> 00:57:36.510 So, if you could have some type of transport and motor transportation to get them up and back and forth from there. 519 00:57:37.650 --> 00:57:43.409 Wait that use for an example we've had over on a. 520 00:57:43.409 --> 00:57:50.309 And that was the North Star after materials, that pedestrian bridge, and they use the declaration. 521 00:57:50.309 --> 00:57:53.639 And that, that, that gives you the availability with the bikes. 522 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:59.039 A little parents, motorized parents, so it would be on the same premises of that check. 523 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:03.150 That'd be great. Perfect. That's good. That that'd be perfect. 524 00:58:03.150 --> 00:58:06.630 Okay, we'll get you a segue Jack. 525 00:58:06.630 --> 00:58:18.480 Hey, listen, no, I'm actually going to get out of bed. He's going to carry me. He says he's been carrying me for the last 6 years anyway, so he. 526 00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:21.539 All right, get your legs on on mayor. 527 00:58:28.224 --> 00:58:38.425 So either a conversation and takes notes for you for being out of the conversation and ask a grid are going to be very, 528 00:58:38.425 --> 00:58:40.465 very important moving parts and, 529 00:58:43.945 --> 00:58:44.485 you know. 530 00:58:44.820 --> 00:58:51.510 This and I want to let you at least you can go back to Melanie at this point what anybody else. 531 00:58:51.510 --> 00:58:56.909 Um, after 3, once the lifetime for this patient. 532 00:58:56.909 --> 00:59:02.280 We don't have 5 or 10 years to get it down a harbor planning meeting. I'm online. 533 00:59:05.394 --> 00:59:17.905 May or may do so our next step is to begin to advance this. Would you like me to start working with Tom on the specifics of this design? Do you want to have a meeting? 1st before we do that? 534 00:59:18.420 --> 00:59:26.340 Lisa, yes, and I probably will probably take a call with you tomorrow with maybe a conference call with. 535 00:59:26.340 --> 00:59:29.579 And Paul in my share. Okay. 536 00:59:29.579 --> 00:59:35.789 Is where I know we're going to meet with you on May 6. so we were planning on advancing this idea for that meeting. 537 00:59:38.429 --> 00:59:42.960 You want to find 5 or 6? Please. Okay. We got it. 538 00:59:46.344 --> 00:59:59.454 I just well, we, we, I know that you're eager to move so we actually had an, a meeting this morning with my with jam, our designer and Paul, and we're ready to roll. So we just wanted to go through today and we'll get started right away. 539 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:10.440 Every single 1, more point that I know we touched on briefly that I think would help expedite this a lot outside. The renderings is the accessibility. 540 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:18.030 Not just an operations site, but just that work ability. I mean, as we get into screen here and everybody gets excited. 541 01:00:18.030 --> 01:00:25.019 A lot of the great work is going to be done in the summer months planning during the winter, and then ready to construction in the spring. 542 01:00:25.019 --> 01:00:29.280 I mean, any type of how he could assist there would be. 543 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:41.969 Okay, right. And Tom, if you can find anything on personal 7, kind of, as an SAP thing, that's probably 1 of the most critical pieces that we need on our end. 544 01:00:41.969 --> 01:00:50.219 Because that's just sort of a missing it's missing. That's a big missing piece of information. We have right in the middle of this, that we need to understand what's there and. 545 01:00:50.219 --> 01:00:59.364 Counters and stuff like that. Sure. So I have that as a takeaway, and I do understand the importance of the project for the city. 546 01:00:59.364 --> 01:01:08.485 So we'll dig in and see how much we work we can do and how soon we can get it done. So. 547 01:01:09.300 --> 01:01:13.800 Yeah, my my word on that, mayor, thank you. 548 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:21.000 Directly tab. Okay. Anybody have any issues with the direction we're taking at this point. 549 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.360 Like the right now before we. 550 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:29.730 It on the next issue. 551 01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:32.909 Okay, not. 552 01:01:32.909 --> 01:01:38.849 Well, well, well, the next day agenda wasn't update it personal. 553 01:01:38.849 --> 01:01:45.809 Working with Bob Murray and working on the agreement phase with log garden. 554 01:01:45.809 --> 01:01:50.039 But everybody remembers, we had a R, a. 555 01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:56.849 Our Q process, the mall garden team submitted was reviewed by the board in the board. 556 01:01:56.849 --> 01:02:01.829 Resolution to to go into negotiation. 557 01:02:01.829 --> 01:02:08.760 For the 3333 parcels and 33 parcels about 3 acres includes property. 558 01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.809 Uh, Jason to it, or developing the new building and. 559 01:02:12.809 --> 01:02:19.230 Well, a couple of times it's been here a couple of times presenting their concepts. 560 01:02:19.230 --> 01:02:24.929 And Rob's here today, so, you know, if there's anybody has any questions to where. 561 01:02:24.929 --> 01:02:28.559 Or, you know, at this time. 562 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:31.559 Free to ask. 563 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:45.900 And this is, of course, this isn't designed Rob Rob still going, but this is a footprint of the 33 building and Rob. This is the approximate footprint of the additional building that you were thinking about, you know, when when we got it. So. 564 01:02:45.900 --> 01:02:53.130 And, of course, we started thinking about the prominent design and thinking about the transition space between your buildings to the prominent. 565 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:59.309 I think we share. 566 01:02:59.309 --> 01:03:02.519 I think do we share with you the design for this area? 567 01:03:04.110 --> 01:03:07.889 I'll get it to, you. 568 01:03:07.889 --> 01:03:12.510 I don't want to speak for Dave, but, I mean, obviously, I don't really think it's. 569 01:03:12.510 --> 01:03:25.349 It's that difficult of a project. I'm not saying that in a cocky manner, I think there's, you know, we're going to obviously they'll work with you guys on whatever vision you have proven angular standpoint to make sure that everything's on properly. 570 01:03:25.349 --> 01:03:30.960 I mean, 1 of those new construction and water was rehab, pretty much, an open space. So. 571 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:39.119 I don't really see too many issues with timing on stuff. I mean, we'd have to get started to that point with Abe, but. 572 01:03:40.230 --> 01:03:44.130 Yeah, I don't I like too much on that to me, it's. 573 01:03:44.130 --> 01:03:53.400 Yeah, right now I'm working on the the general subdivision lines and the feet are not too different. 574 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:58.769 But and then this kind of refining the exact exact copy aligns. 575 01:03:58.769 --> 01:04:03.840 For the subdivision, so we're doing that and then pretty soon it's going to be out there. 576 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:08.219 Or getting the net subdivision the same way. We worked out in the dsa 1 subdivision. 577 01:04:08.219 --> 01:04:19.469 That's probably the last thing been on if there's no questions around. The last thing on the agenda is the subdivision and dsa 1. 578 01:04:19.469 --> 01:04:34.469 Brian has been helping and been working with Brian and, uh, so we're gonna be on the, we think may planning board to get the 6 subdivision up at dsa 1, which creates new parcel for selling divisions. 579 01:04:35.940 --> 01:04:45.480 Brian, I just sent you the, your comments back today, so you maybe you have a chance to check your email, but it'll be there when you get to your computer. 580 01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.260 And you don't have the list. 581 01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:53.340 No, we're just going to this was. 582 01:04:53.340 --> 01:04:58.380 This was just like an internal concept that we did. So now we're going to meet with. 583 01:04:58.380 --> 01:05:10.255 The, I'm forgetting his name, but the representative from Jones chemical to just confirm that they're interested in selling as, as Paul said, he we reserve 40,000 dollars of the z182 grant to purchase this. 584 01:05:10.255 --> 01:05:15.025 We're hoping it's around 30 or 32, because that's what we paid for New York term emotions. 585 01:05:18.025 --> 01:05:32.425 And just for the board's awareness, this, this now that I'm zoomed in this, this is the trailer that on all of the treatment pipes, come into, to treat the contamination in this area. So we have this weird thing in the middle of this parking lot. 586 01:05:32.664 --> 01:05:36.505 That can't be moved, but we think about what, 350 or 400 spots Paul. 587 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.400 Yeah, told us 40,400 dollars. 588 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:49.829 So, um, so we're just going to meet with him and we'll move forward and and start to purchase this key piece of property here. 589 01:05:50.849 --> 01:05:58.829 All right, that's an extra month monthly meetings on there. 590 01:05:58.829 --> 01:06:04.739 So, I guess we're going to try to open it up so everybody can come in when you feel comfortable. So. 591 01:06:04.739 --> 01:06:12.539 Nice to meet in person with some people. Um, if there's nothing else, can I get a motion to adjourn? 592 01:06:13.860 --> 01:06:18.900 It's movie, right right all day. 593 01:06:18.900 --> 01:06:23.010 So. 594 01:06:23.010 --> 01:06:26.849 Thanks everybody thanks. Everybody. Thanks. 595 01:06:32.099 --> 01:06:37.650 The whole.