WEBVTT 1 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:17.579 I wasn't doing it before. Here you go. All right. That's fine. That's fine. 2 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:00:17.579 --> 00:00:37.579 Now we call the meeting order to get a motion for the minutes 17 September. Okay. Yeah, so I we've got to a point where the contract documents are ready to go out. I should have brought some. 3 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:00:37.579 --> 00:01:00.270 So the contract consist consists of ground improvements where the MPG building's gonna go and what the ground improvements are. Ground improvements are especially contractor goes in there and grounds. 4 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:01:00.270 --> 00:01:15.870 Bunch of columns. We have like droughted columns in a in a density pattern in a grid pattern, and that strengthens the ground, so it won't sink and then they can put their footings and everything in the strengthened ground. So this contract has. 5 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:01:15.870 --> 00:01:35.870 Those ground improvements also has water and sewer extensions from Lee Street over to where the new development would go. Those are the main pieces of the, of the contract, so there's not a lot, but there is a couple alternates so if for some reason the bids come in and that doesn't fill the. 6 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:01:35.870 --> 00:01:55.950 1.3 million, you know, less the soft cost. There's an alternate to do footing work at the so we actually do footings where the future building columns are and where the walls are. So there's there's alternates for that work and then there's an alternate. 7 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:01:55.950 --> 00:02:14.790 For putting the slab down if again the brown improvements and the utility of extensions don't fill the 1.3 million. Slapped down for what? For the new building? For the building like sales looking at? No, for the MBG development. 8 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:02:14.790 --> 00:02:30.720 Oh, for their extension on where they're going right this all this daily work was all or add improvements, add ready improvements at where MVG is building, those are the soft ground to get the details there. So that. 9 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:02:30.720 --> 00:02:50.720 So that package is ready to go out the dates on this have been adjusted a bit you know with the pre bid meeting would be on 27 October and Monday@eleven.the 40 and we would get bids back in 13 November, not the 20th, I'm here. 13 November so you. 10 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:02:50.720 --> 00:03:09.180 You guys could take action on award on the 19th. So are we looking for a grant for the other building too, out the other buyer? This is, this goes back to the dancing grant that WBG lobby for the. 11 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:03:09.180 --> 00:03:24.540 And this was a state member line item from Mary Ann Butchun. He added a line item for the improvements at this Location through as the dance to the LBC. 12 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:03:24.540 --> 00:03:41.460 Okay, but there's NO On the other side, you don't need a grant for any of that stuff with the ground solid there, that's all good. That's not a new foundation that yes, it says that has a foundation. We already did that. We spent a million dollars on those foundations actually. 13 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:03:41.460 --> 00:03:56.520 Yeah. So this is very specific and even the grant was written around this kind of grant and I'm just talking in general. This is kind of grant is where our other person was looking at that building. 14 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:16.520 Looks like they're doing work for him and they're not doing nothing for him. Is that where he's getting? And I'm asking cause I don't know. Is that where he's coming up with that? I don't know, I don't know where I mean I could see where you would think that when you? And I'm all four, and I'm all four of this thing I'm just saying, if you look at the outside. 15 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:04:16.520 --> 00:04:33.449 Yeah. He's looking at buying this building yeah that then what the staffing grant is going toward the gardens that I would say the developer interested in the 17 building to realize that there's already been a million dollars spent at this you know. 16 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:49.439 This is foundations for a new company, you know, but that's where it's gotta be coming from then I didn't realize that so we're ready to, you know, with, with the board resolution so there'll be the resolution would be to allow. 17 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:04:49.439 --> 00:05:05.549 Good letting for Unica Harbor water Fund Development pad ready improvement project to be let this Friday. So are we gonna try to get more, we're always gonna try to get more grants, right? 18 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:05:05.549 --> 00:05:22.109 Yeah, we'll we'll continue to try to help yeah yeah we're not going in. In this grant right here, this destiny grant, Mary Anne put it in the budget. Who went and applied for that? Does she did this? 19 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:05:22.109 --> 00:05:39.509 Did you have Andy, did the other person will not really gardens apply for that grant? No, they just they just help lobby for it. They did that. Really remember items, it's more likely they're gonna go to public. 20 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:05:39.509 --> 00:05:59.489 Agency versus, yeah. But it was better the whole Lobbying was for that might go to a public who went through the we can manage appropriately. When it comes to application per se. Yeah, I'm just asking so I understand better, so. 21 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:05:59.489 --> 00:06:19.489 I'm glad they're getting that and we can start moving once you receive an order or a commitment, then the application process starts for the we have paperwork in the I'm gonna have to continue to check on that paperwork and make sure everything's in order you know during the period. What is what's need? What is that? 22 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:06:19.489 --> 00:06:23.429 Yeah. 23 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:06:23.429 --> 00:06:41.309 So they handle a lot of member item rates. So is that something you get once or you can get it over again? Yep, so. 24 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:06:41.309 --> 00:07:01.309 So we don't need any additional funding for the consultants and all that and the bank has agreed upfront for money if we needed to find the consultants and everything. Yeah financing ok so the. 25 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:07:01.309 --> 00:07:19.079 The LDC also has the financing in place now for these expenditures. So that's important. And just for the record, this this the dancey grant number project ID is 284443 under the. 26 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:39.079 Community resilience, economic sustainability and technology program frustrate. So, next? Yeah, I think just to clarify, pretty good 27 October is due 13 November NO? Yes. 27 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:07:39.079 --> 00:08:00.149 So we could vote on November at the next and it'll be published this Friday afternoon, and the bidding process is through an online planhouse, so interesting bidders will register there and get their plan sets from the planthouse. No questions if I can get it off motion? 28 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:08:00.149 --> 00:08:19.829 All in favor. Else we should get a letter out to thank you here for our efforts on this on our behalf. Maybe if I don't think about it. 29 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:08:19.829 --> 00:08:45.553 Right, we have the letter from the bank. I sent it to Bob. Bob made some changes. Bob, they accepted most of your changes. There's a couple that they didn't, but they're willing to continue a conversation on it. Alright, so I'll send you a copy of this upgraded letter. 30 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:08:45.553 --> 00:08:48.387 Okay. 31 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:08:48.387 --> 00:08:55.105 Nothing nothing big. Pretty much everything you sent them they have they put in here, so, alright? 32 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:08:55.105 --> 00:08:58.185 Okay. 33 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:08:58.185 --> 00:09:13.769 So we have the funding for a million five. We're still working on getting the money to get out of MBT Bank that they put on the back burner to get this thing done for us. So, my past that I had all some great copies for everybody. 34 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:18.465 Do we need a motion to approve this or are we all set? 35 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:09:18.465 --> 00:09:34.527 Motion to approve what executing the letter of ten? Yep. Yes, you would want you'd want authority from the board then otherwise you'll be accused of going rogue. Yes, you should get a motion and a. 36 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:09:34.527 --> 00:09:38.249 The resolution that we own the bank still. 37 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:09:38.249 --> 00:09:57.149 So the money that we owe the bank, where are we, where's it coming from now? That's 2nd part of this. This give gets us into the ground even though we're still working with this. That's the money that we already owe the bank is from what? 38 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:09:57.149 --> 00:10:17.149 From before? Yeah, that's from before and that should we're negotiating with the bank and with to take them out for a discount of the model. Okay, so where are we getting the money to pay that off? Oh, we're borrowing from ok and what I'm talking to Erronic about is taking. 39 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:10:17.149 --> 00:10:33.119 The assignment of us was buying the lands collateral against that once once he comes through buying the land, we pay the other ok. 40 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:10:33.119 --> 00:10:48.959 Okay, get a motion or second most. 41 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:10:48.959 --> 00:11:15.367 Anything else all gave us the update if you just if you want to do anything with Sal as far as the deadlines. Yeah, do we need a motion on that or just kind of an agreement? We're gonna give Sal till 15 December or before December meeting to decide if he's going or not. Do we need a motion to send that letter out or can we just send it to him? 42 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:11:15.367 --> 00:11:36.328 Well, you, you could do either all, but I I I, you know, if the board by resolution voted to have that be the preferred developer years ago, I I think the board by resolution should, you know, take this action to say if you don't do something by X, we will be moving onwards. Okay. 43 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:11:36.328 --> 00:11:46.769 And if we move onward, he still can participate in bidding on whatever's an RFP or whatever, even though we move forward. 44 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:11:46.769 --> 00:12:04.259 He could still bid on that too, but he's got, he's the sole bidder until December whenever we send this to? Do we want a official offer by then or? Well I think the email, I think he kind of sent an email where basically. 45 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:12:04.259 --> 00:12:21.089 We kind of laid it out there. I mean it was like the schematic level plans and clarification on how he intends to apply with the flood plane regulations and you know. 46 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:12:21.089 --> 00:12:38.489 Most importantly and so should we have that for Bob's office or how do we send it out ourselves and how do how do we handle it? Yeah, well Bob said before that the right Bob Melanie that. 47 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:12:38.489 --> 00:12:59.959 It's more appropriate the letter of intent comes from the buyer. But I mean the letter to Sal saying we need these from him or coming from the board you know things that the board voted but you know, so that we make sure it's all by up and we don't have him coming back saying I did three of the five. 48 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:12:59.959 --> 00:13:12.432 Oh yeah. Great thing you send them a letter and it's basically the email, but do you send formalize that the letter and send it to him with the deadline? 49 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:13:12.432 --> 00:13:18.371 Sure, I think you're right, you could stay on whatever, what is today what's today date? 50 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:13:18.371 --> 00:13:20.069 15th. 51 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:13:20.069 --> 00:13:38.149 Yeah, on 15 October, the board resolved to terminate whatever status it is that he has, I just can't recall what it is. Let's just say preferred developer to terminate your preferred developer status. 52 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:13:38.149 --> 00:13:53.867 As of December 12025, unless it receives a satisfactory response to the email submitted to you by Vin Gilroy on such and such a date. I think that could be the gist of the letter. 53 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:13:53.867 --> 00:14:02.369 Over 15, so it's in even three months. Okay, right. 54 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:14:02.369 --> 00:14:17.759 Right, right. You got a motion to send sell the letter? 55 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:37.079 Any any other business? Yeah, do we have beside that, I know yours talked before that there's other people interested have we heard from other people? 56 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:14:37.079 --> 00:14:57.079 There is on the sideline, he's interested in the hardware right? Interested. I mean interesting interested where it's out and somebody said I'd be interested or something written down in paper or well, you know, they're not interested in the 33 building but you know let's tied up under shoes. Right. 57 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:14:57.079 --> 00:15:15.749 So if that ever fell through there's lots of people that are interested in that. Other than that we really only have the 17 and that's tied up with Sally right now so there's NO movement we can do until Sally their moves or doesn't move or we acquire more land from the city. 58 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:15:15.749 --> 00:15:32.579 Yeah, there's some over there. So yeah, NO, there's lots of interests and there are lots of people getting down there too. Yeah. 59 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:15:32.579 --> 00:15:49.169 He hasn't called me. Yeah, I just don't, but I don't know. The other guy was the other guy I had the other guy was calling me all the time. And then when I called Sal about it, he said he had nothing to do with it, that's two she got. Okay. And he said I didn't want anybody to be involved in that. 60 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:15:49.169 --> 00:16:12.088 But he was calling me about this bagel place that he's opening up. They did anything on that Brian? Nothing? You know what you don't have a clue what I'm talking about? I have NO clue where you're talking about. So right across where they were gonna build a car wash. He's opening with the same developer called skinny bagels. So they haven't came done nothing with the city. Just gonna say. 61 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:16:12.088 --> 00:16:17.245 Yeah. 62 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:16:17.245 --> 00:16:21.088 But it kind of sounds like a great concept. I mean, I don't care I think it's a. 63 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:16:21.088 --> 00:16:34.248 Skinny Bagels is gonna take over. Is there someone named skinny bagels? Cause that's the way it's appearing. Is that a person's name? 64 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:16:34.248 --> 00:16:47.144 No, it's the No that's the name of the that's the name of the business. I guess the bagels are hollowed out because the tra the transcript of this meeting. 65 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:16:47.144 --> 00:16:52.069 The transcript of this meeting is calling the person skinny Bagels as a proper name. 66 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:16:52.069 --> 00:16:54.047 Team. 67 "7162****91" (948850432) 00:16:54.047 --> 00:16:55.743 Funny name for a person. 68 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:16:55.743 --> 00:16:59.729 I'm just telling him that's name and the business. He said they're opening and I. 69 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:16:59.729 --> 00:17:19.729 I was asking Brian if he heard anything about it. Where's that they're talking about at the top of the morning. Northern Plaz is in North did it go back to North Francos, and then it's like three buildings up there as an empty lot. Kevin Hughes construction owns it, ok? They cleared it all out back at the time he came in front. 70 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:17:19.729 --> 00:17:21.899 One of us you mind to open a car wash. 71 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:17:21.899 --> 00:17:41.899 You wanted to cut the backside out where it would go on that big road. We we were against that, but we said you could clear it out and do it. It's already zoned every right right Brian zone for a business. Thought he cleared everything out and was gonna do for you enter on Trendon and come out at trend. Now, this. 72 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:17:41.899 --> 00:17:45.839 Very stuchies called me and told me that the airbuilding one. 73 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:17:45.839 --> 00:18:04.529 You're gonna open and you're gonna start construction with like a gore made bagel shop coffee, you know, drive through and so you just looking for my blessing, I go do whatever you want, I don't care. And number one, I don't have any saying it's already zone. Yeah, it's right by my house. Yeah. 74 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:18:04.529 --> 00:18:19.739 But somehow he got, he got on Facebook and was writing all stuff about the Harbor and Sal, and when I called Sal about it, he said, I don't have anything to do with that. 75 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:18:19.739 --> 00:18:35.069 The conditions that was physical letter of the best thing stuff would do was work with Dave actually his architect they would solve these other problems, right? So he's really serious if he got investment. 76 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:18:35.069 --> 00:18:53.219 My heart, in my heart say that's like I don't have an executive session or whatever. I don't I don't really believe he's I think at the end of the day but. 77 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:18:53.219 --> 00:19:10.619 He's got this other building going on too. I guess the other one I watched. Yeah yeah so that's what I have for Brian. Nope. Great conversations moving forward. 78 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:19:10.619 --> 00:19:30.619 Continuing. No has nothing to do with the bank. No, NO. Yeah. Just they're moving forward. 79 "jspaeth@cityofutica.com" (914120704) 00:19:30.619 --> 00:19:41.520 Okay. Thanks for coming down so I can get this going. Yeah.