WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.004 --> 00:00:11.275 Linda hi. How are you? Good morning. Ready, Jack. I am sure everybody. 2 00:00:11.544 --> 00:00:17.274 I know everybody had joined their quarantine. 3 00:00:24.714 --> 00:00:27.655 It's called meeting order. Okay. 4 00:00:27.655 --> 00:00:29.934 I get the approval of the minutes so the April seventeen th, 5 00:00:29.934 --> 00:00:39.024 meeting second, 6 00:00:39.865 --> 00:00:43.765 they were so moved. 7 00:00:48.865 --> 00:01:00.534 I was talking about that. What the extension? Yeah. Yeah. They just need an extension and they are on their financing. 8 00:01:01.405 --> 00:01:10.375 I don't think it's anything really to say about it. They've, they've just get some delays. I've approved the, the document. 9 00:01:14.250 --> 00:01:15.655 Okay, how long is the extension? 10 00:01:15.655 --> 00:01:30.504 Portland till November two thousand and twenty from May from May two thousand nineteen honey they pretty sure it'll be caused 11 00:01:30.504 --> 00:01:30.924 by them. 12 00:01:33.834 --> 00:01:47.334 There's questions on the extension a participant has joined the meeting. No. Yeah. Alright. Can I get a motion to approve the extension? 13 00:01:49.915 --> 00:01:59.605 I can second. John all in favor. Aye. Opposed. Alright. 14 00:01:59.665 --> 00:02:06.954 So, move on road associates where we're here to do is to and I'll read the agenda. 15 00:02:07.375 --> 00:02:11.455 I'll consider a statement of findings relating to the birth stone road associates, 16 00:02:12.715 --> 00:02:15.685 apprentice medical group facility, 17 00:02:15.990 --> 00:02:30.534 making certain determinations with respect to a retail facility and requesting the mayor of Utica to confirm the proposed financial assistance also consider a final authorizing resolution relating to the bourbon road associates 18 00:02:30.564 --> 00:02:32.129 LLC facility, 19 00:02:32.125 --> 00:02:32.574 approving, 20 00:02:32.574 --> 00:02:33.745 financial assistance, 21 00:02:34.074 --> 00:02:34.405 sales, 22 00:02:34.405 --> 00:02:34.675 tax, 23 00:02:34.675 --> 00:02:35.245 exemption, 24 00:02:35.245 --> 00:02:35.604 mortgage, 25 00:02:35.905 --> 00:02:36.324 check, 26 00:02:36.354 --> 00:02:36.925 exemption, 27 00:02:36.955 --> 00:02:43.254 and a ten year pilot deviation from the policy and authorizing the form and execution of documents. 28 00:02:46.254 --> 00:02:47.215 Any discussion. 29 00:02:52.764 --> 00:03:05.514 Jackie had the public hearing. Did anybody come? No, I no. Wouldn't called in. The only thing that we had was the usual letter from the school board, which I, which I shared with everybody. 30 00:03:06.235 --> 00:03:15.145 So, again, it's no comments on that. Okay. Anybody got any questions on this. 31 00:03:15.895 --> 00:03:24.205 And Jack, over, how many years are they expected incur that loss of one hundred and eighty three thousand you know. 32 00:03:26.455 --> 00:03:37.735 Lots of hundred the school districts letter says, well, we have the pilots for ten years. Okay. 33 00:03:38.789 --> 00:03:39.270 So, 34 00:03:39.865 --> 00:03:40.254 again, 35 00:03:40.254 --> 00:03:42.745 they they send a letter, 36 00:03:43.134 --> 00:03:44.844 no matter what the project is, 37 00:03:44.965 --> 00:03:46.074 unless it has a, 38 00:03:46.074 --> 00:03:48.745 unless there is no pilot and then, 39 00:03:48.895 --> 00:03:50.215 because we've had sales tax, 40 00:03:50.215 --> 00:03:51.235 only projects, 41 00:03:51.569 --> 00:03:56.544 such as digestive disease and they did not submit a letter for that. 42 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:08.935 But for the any type of pilot that we provide, no matter what it is, whether it's a distribution or not, they always send a letter like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 43 00:04:08.935 --> 00:04:14.275 It's it's, it's become the policy, the school district to essentially object to every pilot. 44 00:04:16.165 --> 00:04:21.235 Okay, that's the only question I had on that. 45 00:04:23.185 --> 00:04:30.384 John, did you have something? Yeah, I just got to whatever it's worse. I'm sure that particular buildings. 46 00:04:31.735 --> 00:04:41.814 And the benefit benefit of I had a pilot for at least once or twice in the last twenty plus years. I mean, it's a business part. 47 00:04:41.814 --> 00:04:54.595 I mean, what school district expecting, you know, there was a pilot on that building in the past John as you mentioned. 48 00:04:54.954 --> 00:04:59.185 But, you know, we, we did take it away because there was no activity in the building. 49 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:13.524 So, I'm just trying to be mindful of the projects that we have out there and, and, you know, what, what what we're putting out there and making sure that we're being frugal with the benefits that we can provide. 50 00:05:14.875 --> 00:05:24.024 Plus there aren't there. How many jobs are they saying? They're gonna bring in? They're gonna have fifteen to start that they'll bring over and then they'll have an additional fifteen. 51 00:05:24.024 --> 00:05:32.665 That'll be a combination of doctors and nurses technicians. Okay. 52 00:05:33.235 --> 00:05:41.490 So that sales tax money or school tax money can be made up by the new employees, people that bring into the area pretty quickly. Absolutely. 53 00:05:41.485 --> 00:05:42.055 And also, 54 00:05:42.055 --> 00:05:43.375 I anticipate that the, 55 00:05:44.454 --> 00:05:46.675 because of the change in use of the building, 56 00:05:47.009 --> 00:05:48.894 and the improvements that they will do, 57 00:05:49.014 --> 00:05:56.485 obviously it's going from pretty much an empty shell for the most part or office based to a medical facility with a, 58 00:05:57.535 --> 00:05:57.925 you know, 59 00:05:57.985 --> 00:06:00.535 the the examining rooms et cetera. 60 00:06:00.805 --> 00:06:10.644 I anticipate that there would be some type of an increase in the assess value so that would for the benefit all involved actually. Okay. Yeah. 61 00:06:10.644 --> 00:06:21.235 But how what's facility been it's been a while it's been at least ten, maybe twelve years. If I went back through my minutes, so we can probably find out where. 62 00:06:22.855 --> 00:06:34.584 You know, at what point, we discontinued the pilot that was there and then even then it was still empty for a number of years prior to that. 63 00:06:35.665 --> 00:06:48.685 Right. A long time in the United Healthcare move. The deviation is justified in so far as it did the highly buildings to empty bringing highly skilled jobs to the building. 64 00:06:49.254 --> 00:06:55.014 I mean, it's a, it's a true revitalization. Know what's going on. 65 00:06:57.509 --> 00:07:02.964 Jack atomic? Yes, sir. What's the average pay? The jobs are going there. 66 00:07:04.704 --> 00:07:09.235 Average pay, let me just grab the file real quick. 67 00:07:09.954 --> 00:07:22.704 You figure with the doctors, it's gotta be a buck fifty to two hundred or more, and the nurses nurses are making thirty, forty bucks an hour. 68 00:07:24.504 --> 00:07:33.204 Just, as a general rule would be like sixty employees in another operation. Oh, absolutely. Yes. 69 00:07:36.204 --> 00:07:39.535 Jack was this the application where pediatric urgent care is part of it? 70 00:07:40.944 --> 00:07:53.425 Correct so AIDS and receptionist, they have a twenty nine or twenty eight to forty seven and a half thousand. 71 00:07:53.875 --> 00:07:59.634 And then doctors and nurse practitioners are one hundred and four, two, three, sixty. 72 00:08:00.329 --> 00:08:12.115 So that's not your, you know, typical wage, you know, in in the market outside of doctors and, and, you know, maybe attorney's accountants. 73 00:08:12.115 --> 00:08:23.995 Sorry I'm not poking at you guys out there, but bankers in there. Well, that's a good point. Yeah, thank you. 74 00:08:23.995 --> 00:08:38.335 I retired attorneys and retired insurance guys and engineers. Thank you, John. I guess we're covering that base overhead. 75 00:08:38.514 --> 00:08:41.514 I guess maybe it's just an average salary then for this market. 76 00:08:46.375 --> 00:08:58.259 Alright, well, there's no other issues can I get a motion? I'll make a motion. Alright. All in favor, close. 77 00:08:58.764 --> 00:09:06.355 So moved Mana Anna properties. I apologize for this short notice. 78 00:09:06.355 --> 00:09:17.815 I'm sending you the letter that I just did outlines and require a requested increase in the mortgage recording tax. 79 00:09:18.414 --> 00:09:30.654 They were in particular increase mortgage from two hundred as stated in the application, two, three hundred as part of their project, as you recall, from the application. 80 00:09:30.684 --> 00:09:43.764 And I did note in the, in the description that they sent to you that it has been contemplated that the man who was going to build a nine thousand square foot building, a little over nine thousand. 81 00:09:44.394 --> 00:09:56.845 And then to include a two thousand square foot area for additional tenancy. So he kinda started on that probably earlier than what he was thinking. 82 00:09:57.174 --> 00:10:04.975 But I think because he had the construction guys, and then just the a sales tax exemption that he wanted to get it done. Now. 83 00:10:05.394 --> 00:10:14.125 So, he has been moving on that. I think it just kinda crept up on him that, you know, it would go from two hundred to three hundred. 84 00:10:14.634 --> 00:10:26.485 And then, with that increase is also looking for a an increase in the sales tax exemption for the build out of that, a new two thousand square foot area. 85 00:10:28.524 --> 00:10:33.054 The only thing that I talked with Laura late in the day yesterday, 86 00:10:33.475 --> 00:10:36.929 and the only question that we had was, 87 00:10:36.924 --> 00:10:38.875 whether the, 88 00:10:39.174 --> 00:10:45.325 the other additional two thousand square foot had been addressed with the planning board. 89 00:10:45.870 --> 00:10:57.654 So we're I'm waiting the square footage was posted and twenty percent larger, 90 00:10:57.684 --> 00:11:01.404 which it's not a huge, 91 00:11:01.434 --> 00:11:07.134 huge I just don't know whether I can play today, 92 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.815 feel that seeker would need to be redone or restated or anything. 93 00:11:11.845 --> 00:11:16.529 So Jack checked the record. Yesterday there was nothing right correct. 94 00:11:16.735 --> 00:11:31.735 The only thing that was on the original was the ninety six hundred I believe, and not that not the eleven thousand six hundred that was was again contemplated in the application, but not moved upon. 95 00:11:33.565 --> 00:11:34.674 To the planning board, 96 00:11:35.065 --> 00:11:43.134 so I will talk with the head planner today just to kinda get an idea of what the timing was, 97 00:11:43.315 --> 00:11:50.065 whether the building was built and then the edition was started in that case. 98 00:11:50.695 --> 00:11:51.144 There is, 99 00:11:51.174 --> 00:11:52.585 as Linda was saying, 100 00:11:52.585 --> 00:11:59.575 there was a stipulation where such as a month in machinery when we did that building, 101 00:11:59.784 --> 00:12:08.845 they put a fifteen thousand square foot bill or a twelve thousand square foot addition and it was less than a third of the total building size. 102 00:12:08.875 --> 00:12:09.445 That it was, 103 00:12:09.475 --> 00:12:10.644 is currently there, 104 00:12:11.065 --> 00:12:25.914 so I think there's a timing issue as to whether he started the construction right along and kept on going when he had the ninety six hundred built or if the ninety six hundred was built unsettled and then he started to 105 00:12:25.914 --> 00:12:27.024 do the two thousand, 106 00:12:27.174 --> 00:12:32.934 which would would not necessarily activate the planning board, 107 00:12:33.174 --> 00:12:35.245 but it's still good to tell somebody, 108 00:12:36.355 --> 00:12:36.654 you know, 109 00:12:36.654 --> 00:12:38.154 just because we have to, 110 00:12:38.725 --> 00:12:43.644 if we have to do is a seeker for our for this part of the application, 111 00:12:43.914 --> 00:12:45.595 then the agency can leave. 112 00:12:45.625 --> 00:12:51.955 It can act as the ID can act as lead agency, but we would still need to know that. That was happening. 113 00:12:52.830 --> 00:12:53.129 So, 114 00:12:53.125 --> 00:12:53.335 we'll, 115 00:12:53.394 --> 00:13:03.865 we'll fair down on that today and in talking with more than it would be contemplated on the on, 116 00:13:03.894 --> 00:13:04.164 you know, 117 00:13:04.164 --> 00:13:04.524 the, 118 00:13:04.735 --> 00:13:06.384 the decision of the planning board, 119 00:13:06.384 --> 00:13:10.914 or at least the head planner here as to how we would move forward. 120 00:13:14.154 --> 00:13:26.995 So, for us to approve this subsequent to the review, right? Yes, exactly. Yes. And that was part of my in the body of the email. What I was getting at. 121 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:39.294 Okay, okay anybody got any questions on us. Okay. Can I get a motion to approve subject to the planning board in the council review? 122 00:13:46.225 --> 00:13:55.705 Alright. Hi. No, I just, I appreciate everybody's time and getting everybody on board here. 123 00:13:55.705 --> 00:14:03.625 I have nothing else on the agenda, you know, new projects are starting to kind of happen. 124 00:14:03.625 --> 00:14:16.075 I, I got an inquiry for the Presbyterian building and facility up on genessee street that's being looked at. Or at least it's on the market right now. 125 00:14:16.465 --> 00:14:19.134 A large facility quite a beautiful inside. 126 00:14:20.784 --> 00:14:32.309 So, they just called me yesterday and there are a couple of applications, and, you know, I've talked to people about so we're just kind of in flux right now, because everything's kind of shut down yeah. 127 00:14:34.495 --> 00:14:46.014 And digestive digestive disease. It's about to close. Are you generally around? So we can coordinate getting your yeah. Hi, Linda. 128 00:14:46.044 --> 00:14:56.004 Linda, what I've been generally doing is if you sent me the documents or send them to vent, then I can, you know, I'll go to his office in the morning and then pick them up and I can go over them. Okay. 129 00:14:56.784 --> 00:15:10.679 Alright, the documents are fine, but I'm waiting for counsel for the company to issue. I need their insurance certificates, so I need some of their deliverables, but we're gonna be pulling the together. 130 00:15:10.705 --> 00:15:23.154 So, I will say, I don't know, Rachel, they probably by Monday, Jack will be ready to have you get the package to bring events. Okay. Sounds great. Okay. I'll be wrong. 131 00:15:28.914 --> 00:15:30.625 Nothing else. Can I get a motion to adjourn? 132 00:15:32.125 --> 00:15:44.695 Motion to join? Yep. Your motion John second mark. Alright. Alright. Most so moved. 133 00:15:45.539 --> 00:15:53.245 Take care everybody stay safe so much. Everyone you have a great day, has left the meeting. 134 00:15:55.044 --> 00:15:55.884 Linda Romano.