WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.790 Intimidate anybody I'm trying not to. I'm. 2 00:00:08.970 --> 00:00:14.368 So, I can't, but I can ask for a boat. Can I get a motion to approve the extension? 3 00:00:14.368 --> 00:00:19.739 I'll move to a previous session mark. 2nd. 4 00:00:19.739 --> 00:00:25.890 I know you're muted. 5 00:00:25.890 --> 00:00:29.789 Muted there you go. 6 00:00:30.114 --> 00:00:42.835 Okay, sorry about that. Okay. I'll try to cut down on the background noise. Sorry about that also your immunity goes style Jack. I can take and get rid of the video too. 7 00:00:44.335 --> 00:00:56.335 Sounds like a presidential debate. Fortunately, I started the record on this, so I'm just going to rehash. 8 00:00:56.335 --> 00:01:01.075 They had the meeting was started at 835 approval of the minutes 1st, by. 9 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:15.084 In the 2nd, by Mark curly, the Doyle ratification was approved with a 1st by Mark curly and a 2nd, by John buffer just for the record. 10 00:01:15.534 --> 00:01:19.885 So we are back to 268 and we get her approval on that a vote. 11 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:34.140 Yep, I got a motion to approve. I think I mark you moved it and John your 2nd to that. I did. Correct. Okay. All in favor post. 12 00:01:34.140 --> 00:01:43.319 53 253 result, let the records show that then obtained. 13 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:48.030 Yes, and vid up saying, thank you. 14 00:01:48.030 --> 00:01:52.230 Next is 253. 15 00:01:52.230 --> 00:02:00.269 genessee street Bowers development for the new century club. Pardon me? They are. 16 00:02:00.269 --> 00:02:03.750 I provided a, they provided a letter. 17 00:02:03.750 --> 00:02:12.330 I'm, uh, detailing what their issues have been and again, I'm not being able to. 18 00:02:12.330 --> 00:02:21.419 Uh, there's really no parking area associated with the building so they have raised the issue that there is, um, uh, only so many. 19 00:02:21.419 --> 00:02:34.919 Uh, uh, carpenters or trades people that can get into the building at 1 time. You'll see that there are, uh, equipment in, you know, going in and out of the building along with, uh, workers. 20 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:40.919 For the construction company, so they are moving along and again, I provide a letter to, you. 21 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.340 Uh, so they're looking to and for an extension. 22 00:02:44.340 --> 00:02:48.960 Out to. 23 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:53.729 The end of 2021. 24 00:02:54.990 --> 00:02:58.919 So, they work that is still remaining on the project. 25 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.400 Uh, remainder of framing work, remainder of installation. 26 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:07.289 Basement floor slab installation work. 27 00:03:07.289 --> 00:03:12.000 Electrical plumbing, fireplace, restoration, a lot of restoration on this building. 28 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:18.960 Port restoration, interior, exterior, painting and flooring replacement and restoration. 29 00:03:20.460 --> 00:03:31.229 That is that is that data and item number 1 uh, erroneous the December 31st 2018. 30 00:03:31.229 --> 00:03:42.985 No, they, um, they had used their extension up to that point, but then they were kind of in a holding pattern if you will. So they never came back to us. 31 00:03:42.985 --> 00:03:48.775 They didn't really have too many trades going on in the building at past that point. 32 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.099 For basically, 2019. okay. 33 00:03:53.099 --> 00:04:03.750 Again, they have BB. L. I think construction is working on the. 34 00:04:03.750 --> 00:04:11.400 A on the building currently. Okay. That's. 35 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:16.050 It looks like they have plenty to do and how much space to do it and. 36 00:04:16.050 --> 00:04:30.028 Correct right and then in the winter time, as you'll notice pardon me? They also they can't block off the hopper down on next quarter because of the snow removal. 37 00:04:30.028 --> 00:04:36.988 So, it makes it tough to put it into a, to stage any type of work there. 38 00:04:36.988 --> 00:04:40.528 Okay, thank you. 39 00:04:40.528 --> 00:04:46.649 Any other questions. 40 00:04:48.298 --> 00:04:54.478 Okay, can I get a motion to extend the sales tax exemption for 253 genessee? 41 00:04:55.769 --> 00:04:59.278 I'll make the motion. 42 00:04:59.278 --> 00:05:03.838 I'll 2nd, it and mark. Okay. All in favor. 43 00:05:03.838 --> 00:05:06.928 I was so moved. 44 00:05:06.928 --> 00:05:14.399 Okay, business check 1000 to us. We go street. 45 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:19.439 Uh, with us on our panel today is Jim and. 46 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:33.059 Bob Smith, Robert Smith, their attorney, the project based in general is 1002 is going to construct a new building outside. 47 00:05:33.059 --> 00:05:39.119 On the side parcel for United Auto supply, if you recall from the past. 48 00:05:39.119 --> 00:05:44.218 They were looking at a roughly a 6000 square foot. 49 00:05:44.218 --> 00:05:47.428 Grocery store convenience store. 50 00:05:47.428 --> 00:05:54.178 And gas station plans fell through on that the gentleman had passed away actually. 51 00:05:54.353 --> 00:06:07.134 And I kind of canceled a lot of the deals that he had going correct me if I'm wrong. And then so the ground has just been vacant and looking for a new tenant. 52 00:06:07.463 --> 00:06:13.494 So short order is that will occupy the roughly 20000 square foot. 53 00:06:14.129 --> 00:06:20.399 That, uh, that United Auto supply currently has and then 2. 54 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.829 Uh, build out that space, so I'll turn it over to Jim and Bob, and let them. 55 00:06:25.829 --> 00:06:29.369 Uh, talk about, you know, more particulars about the project. 56 00:06:30.353 --> 00:06:43.644 And well, thank you. So, James, Bob Smith from California on with me as well. So we are proposing on behalf of the ownership, the construction of 21600 square foot building. Really? 57 00:06:43.673 --> 00:06:46.403 At the corner of, 58 00:06:46.403 --> 00:06:46.973 as we go, 59 00:06:46.973 --> 00:06:47.843 and the arterial, 60 00:06:47.843 --> 00:06:48.353 as Jack said, 61 00:06:48.353 --> 00:06:49.074 previously, 62 00:06:49.434 --> 00:06:51.564 when we were looking at the development, 63 00:06:51.564 --> 00:06:55.134 we had nice and easy that was looking to go in there, 64 00:06:55.134 --> 00:07:00.204 but health issues and then sale of nice and easy to others. 65 00:07:00.204 --> 00:07:05.153 But that project on hold, and then it went away. 66 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:17.334 In the recent months came to ownership and said they would look, we're looking for it's an expansion of their facility. 67 00:07:17.334 --> 00:07:28.733 So United outta supply, determine that they would like to go construct a 21600 square foot building, associated, parking loading docks, etc to move their warehouse distribution base. 68 00:07:28.733 --> 00:07:43.584 To the corner, as everyone knows, this was the former advisor site and all the work. That takes place. There is much more costly than working on a Greenfield site. 69 00:07:44.423 --> 00:07:51.834 Even though the state came in and spent a lot of money, cleaning stuff up, they left a lot of stuff on site. 70 00:07:51.834 --> 00:08:04.884 So, if you look at our current site back from, and other things we have to do with removal of soils and materials, when we construct the utilities, the foundations, etc are a little bit more exorbitant. So. 71 00:08:07.528 --> 00:08:16.163 We're here for a pilot sales, tax abatement and mortgage recording tax abatements. 72 00:08:17.213 --> 00:08:23.423 Mr Smith can add any additional items but that's roughly the project. 73 00:08:23.728 --> 00:08:29.428 Um, as a whole. 74 00:08:31.559 --> 00:08:37.408 And we kind of broke up at the beginning. How big a building is it going to be. 75 00:08:37.408 --> 00:08:41.788 It's a 21600 square foot building. Okay. 76 00:08:41.788 --> 00:08:50.458 I can share my screen and show you the site plan of it if you want to see it or I don't know if you have copies of that in front of, you. 77 00:08:53.099 --> 00:08:59.428 I provided everybody with the application, the cost benefit. Um, I don't know that I did any. 78 00:08:59.428 --> 00:09:07.678 You you did send some other information, but I didn't I didn't provide that. If you want 2 gentlemen of my board and Linda. 79 00:09:07.678 --> 00:09:13.948 I've got questions on the jobs. 80 00:09:13.948 --> 00:09:18.058 So, when you 1st applied. 81 00:09:18.058 --> 00:09:27.749 Not this deal, but in the beginning you represented that you were retaining 22 jobs and creating 9. 82 00:09:27.749 --> 00:09:31.828 For a total of 31 and now. 83 00:09:31.828 --> 00:09:34.859 You say that you're retaining 22. 84 00:09:34.859 --> 00:09:41.188 And creating 5, so I guess I'm confused about. 85 00:09:41.188 --> 00:09:51.089 What was intended wet with the, with the 9 created jobs from the original project and did that ever happen? 86 00:09:51.089 --> 00:09:58.589 Or were you counting the tenants? I'm just not certain what's in these job numbers? Is it is it just. 87 00:09:58.589 --> 00:10:02.908 New way ask, or is it the other tenants as well? 88 00:10:03.774 --> 00:10:05.153 I believe previously, 89 00:10:05.153 --> 00:10:07.673 when they did the job numbers, 90 00:10:07.673 --> 00:10:14.874 it was plus Orc and plus when they were initially coming in this time, 91 00:10:14.994 --> 00:10:19.073 we just gave United Auto supply numbers and seeing the applicant is really 1002. 92 00:10:20.219 --> 00:10:29.938 West genessee street, who's the property owner? We gave United autos, current employment, which I think has been verified. 93 00:10:29.938 --> 00:10:39.178 With Jack, with United Auto folks over the years, when they do the employment numbers, the new jobs, and with. 94 00:10:39.178 --> 00:10:54.178 What they are proposing to do is they have their current jobs, they have other locations, they're looking at consolidating and bringing those jobs to 1 location. So I don't believe There'll be any job creation and I don't want to speak on behalf. 95 00:10:54.178 --> 00:10:58.828 Of what they'll do at the end of the day if it's. 96 00:10:58.828 --> 00:11:04.649 More, um, that would be great, but we didn't represent this application. 97 00:11:04.649 --> 00:11:09.839 I'm and I'm still confused when before. 98 00:11:09.839 --> 00:11:14.489 Us moved into the new site. How many jobs were there? 99 00:11:14.489 --> 00:11:18.389 I can't in 2000. 100 00:11:18.389 --> 00:11:22.469 Whenever when we did this, have patient 2012, I can't tell you there. 101 00:11:22.469 --> 00:11:25.979 That would step something Jack would have to have had was. 102 00:11:25.979 --> 00:11:30.808 Um, Jessica clerk, the application that there were 22. 103 00:11:30.808 --> 00:11:36.089 And you were going to create 9 back in 2012. 104 00:11:36.089 --> 00:11:40.048 You were retaining 22 and creating 9. 105 00:11:40.048 --> 00:11:43.229 And now we started that you're. 106 00:11:43.229 --> 00:11:46.499 You're at 22, so I guess my question is. 107 00:11:46.499 --> 00:11:53.219 Of the 9 that you said you were going to create the 1st time those none of those were, those were Kevin. 108 00:11:55.048 --> 00:12:07.259 Bob, I think she, I think she's accurate. James. I think that the 9 where the numbers and the 22 numbers, which we created, and which were. 109 00:12:07.259 --> 00:12:10.318 Going to retain, or the United supply numbers. 110 00:12:10.318 --> 00:12:18.509 Well, 9 wouldn't have been because 9 was in the 1st application in 2012. 111 00:12:18.509 --> 00:12:25.048 So the 5 new jobs W. W, where, where are those? Who's creating those? 112 00:12:25.048 --> 00:12:36.359 All the jobs that are listed at the turn application are jobs being created by United Auto supply, nothing with Orkin or nothing with. 113 00:12:38.249 --> 00:12:45.028 The number of jobs that are the number of jobs that have been reported on the. 114 00:12:45.028 --> 00:12:52.619 Annual report for total between all. 115 00:12:52.619 --> 00:12:57.958 The entities there and the Orc and and United Auto supply is 57. 116 00:12:57.958 --> 00:13:01.139 That's what they've reported to me over the past couple of years. 117 00:13:01.139 --> 00:13:05.999 Right I think that includes all the correct. 118 00:13:05.999 --> 00:13:10.558 Okay, I'm just trying to get a handle on. 119 00:13:10.558 --> 00:13:19.019 So, I guess it all, but when you ask 1st apply the 9 Labs must is included. 120 00:13:19.019 --> 00:13:24.688 What you expected tenants to do? So I would assume. 121 00:13:24.688 --> 00:13:30.298 Yeah, so between 12, 2012 and 2020. 122 00:13:30.298 --> 00:13:37.469 Did not create any jobs for us they retain 22 and now they're creating 5. 123 00:13:37.469 --> 00:13:50.668 I would have to check with Jessica on that to be honest with you, I think they did add some jobs as a result of building out a larger facility. They move some people from other locations to this location. 124 00:13:50.668 --> 00:13:56.129 But there may be some job additions there that I can't I can't verify 1 way or another right now. 125 00:13:56.129 --> 00:14:03.418 Okay, Jack in their and their reports to you, do they break that down? Or is it just a total number? They do have, um. 126 00:14:03.418 --> 00:14:07.708 Broken out between, uh, tenants and. 127 00:14:07.708 --> 00:14:14.158 An owner, but what is for a job? Hang on a 2nd. 128 00:14:16.708 --> 00:14:25.979 I think that there is something grab time to speak was those jobs are. 129 00:14:30.359 --> 00:14:42.119 On the annual report, they do list out 22 for the owner so they've been consistent with that and then for the tenants have been 35. 130 00:14:43.379 --> 00:14:50.458 Okay, so then those together, that's where they I get well, that's where they get or we, I add up and get the 57. 131 00:14:50.458 --> 00:14:56.999 Yeah, okay so I just want the board to be clear that, um, and 2012. 132 00:14:56.999 --> 00:15:05.219 They had 2222 jobs they projected another 9, but apparently that was tenants that wasn't. 133 00:15:05.219 --> 00:15:09.749 And now, um, 8 years later, there's still at 22. 134 00:15:09.749 --> 00:15:19.019 Uh, the site itself has got 57, which is a good thing, but is still at 22 and they're projecting 5 new jobs at. 135 00:15:19.019 --> 00:15:22.259 Is that accurate statement? Yes. 136 00:15:22.259 --> 00:15:27.359 Okay all right. 137 00:15:27.359 --> 00:15:31.438 If you want to share the screens. 138 00:15:31.438 --> 00:15:35.308 Jim yeah, show the side. 139 00:15:38.249 --> 00:15:47.129 So this is what it currently looks like, you know, existing United Auto supply, tenant spaces. 140 00:15:47.129 --> 00:15:52.019 Um, under the new development existing building to remain. 141 00:15:52.019 --> 00:15:56.158 The additional parking, new 21000 Square. 142 00:15:56.158 --> 00:15:59.308 But building to loading docks. 143 00:15:59.308 --> 00:16:11.278 Canopy on the right hand side, uh, continued access out to as we go another curb cut on last week at the rear of the site. 144 00:16:11.278 --> 00:16:18.899 Extension of the landscape firm and the finishing up of the center island between existing building. 145 00:16:18.899 --> 00:16:23.908 And the new proposed building, so this is on the planning commissions. 146 00:16:23.908 --> 00:16:27.119 Meeting this week for approval so. 147 00:16:27.119 --> 00:16:31.139 We're hoping to get started with this as soon as possible. 148 00:16:31.139 --> 00:16:40.078 There's other sheets, if you want to see grading plans and plans and details, but. 149 00:16:40.078 --> 00:16:51.149 This is the rough layout. Previously, as we said, there was a nice and easy proposed here with feeling silly, but this really completes the site out from what it previously was. Well. 150 00:16:51.149 --> 00:16:58.349 Fully built out a architectural, um, components, so you'll have a glass front facing. 151 00:16:58.349 --> 00:17:06.239 The arterial and asked me to go and then the rest of it will mimic the look of the other building. 152 00:17:14.578 --> 00:17:19.138 Are there any, any questions from the board. 153 00:17:21.449 --> 00:17:25.769 No, not for me. No, no. 154 00:17:25.769 --> 00:17:32.578 So, we're voting to induce so can I get a motion to induce. 155 00:17:32.578 --> 00:17:38.878 This project, I'll move it to John. 156 00:17:38.878 --> 00:17:42.628 so second second mark . 157 00:17:42.628 --> 00:17:48.749 Favor aye aye opposed so I moved. 158 00:17:49.949 --> 00:17:53.909 Do we need to seek a resolution Linda? 159 00:17:53.909 --> 00:17:57.808 We can't do it today because the. 160 00:17:57.808 --> 00:18:04.048 Unless Linda has something else, but a different way, but the planning board will be meeting on the 15th. 161 00:18:04.048 --> 00:18:07.078 So, this, this coming Thursday. 162 00:18:07.078 --> 00:18:11.368 To discuss and hopefully approve it then. 163 00:18:11.368 --> 00:18:15.118 So, I don't know if we can do a contingent upon Linda. 164 00:18:25.798 --> 00:18:34.348 When it has left the meeting, Linda, are you there? 165 00:18:34.348 --> 00:18:43.108 I'm sorry, I was muted. I'm sorry. No, I don't do a contingent. We have to wait for the planning board. We'll do a secret, the next meeting. 166 00:18:43.108 --> 00:18:47.999 Okay, okay. All right. Good luck. Jim. 167 00:18:47.999 --> 00:18:56.038 Thank you thank you gentlemen, thank you. Bye. Bye. Good luck. Bye. Thanks. 168 00:18:56.038 --> 00:19:01.229 Budget Jack I had sent around. 169 00:19:01.229 --> 00:19:06.538 I sent out the budget to everyone, um. 170 00:19:06.538 --> 00:19:10.259 I don't know if it's a pretty. 171 00:19:10.259 --> 00:19:21.929 Cut and dry as it has been we take in a number of dollars and we spend very little to be quite honest. We have I have made some. 172 00:19:21.929 --> 00:19:29.189 Um, paid some invoices for the WI. Fi. So you'll see a little bit of. 173 00:19:29.189 --> 00:19:34.138 In the line item for the project development. 174 00:19:34.644 --> 00:19:49.433 Down on the expenditure side, you see the line up of businesses that we've have assisted and then those that are not closed yet. Um, such as Slocombe, Dixon, fitness mill and. 175 00:19:49.769 --> 00:19:55.439 Uh, 1900 bleaker they're in various, uh, they're just it's not counted yet. 176 00:19:55.439 --> 00:20:02.909 As part of the of the total so I don't know if again, we we take money in, but we don't. 177 00:20:02.909 --> 00:20:10.108 Spend a ton and looking to utilize that money for various city projects such as the WI. Fi. 178 00:20:10.108 --> 00:20:15.058 Uh, things that can help the downtown and help the infrastructure of the city. 179 00:20:16.138 --> 00:20:24.509 I'm sure that everybody has has seen it and reviewed it. 180 00:20:24.509 --> 00:20:31.588 There's no questions can I get a motion to approve the budget? 181 00:20:33.598 --> 00:20:38.459 I'll have to prove it Mark so I can, I'll 2nd. 182 00:20:38.459 --> 00:20:42.209 I'm in favor. 183 00:20:42.209 --> 00:20:49.259 All right closed so I moved, I don't think we need an executive session or anything else. Jack. 184 00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:53.098 No, that's all. I have anything. 185 00:20:53.098 --> 00:21:02.759 Um, I'm still waiting for applications for the 16 and 5 genessee street project that as the. 186 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:09.328 Uh, rehab that will go down at the Presbyterian church. They're working through their financing on that. 187 00:21:09.328 --> 00:21:21.989 Hotel street, and the development of the, like, the Syracuse auto building down there and then also for the empire kitchen and bath. 188 00:21:21.989 --> 00:21:33.689 So, we're just there, we're gathering their funding. I anticipate it and I've noted that they'll probably be on a november's agenda or perhaps, uh, December. 189 00:21:33.689 --> 00:21:41.788 So, our projects are still coming in, we do at least, you know, the word on the street that I've talked to some people. 190 00:21:41.788 --> 00:21:54.659 Regarding projects is that, you know, there's a lot of projects going on now, but next year there's probably going to be some type of a slow down because of a lack of some of the funding. 191 00:21:54.659 --> 00:21:59.098 That previous years have had, so this year, there wasn't a, uh. 192 00:21:59.098 --> 00:22:04.378 Regional economic development. 193 00:22:04.378 --> 00:22:07.769 You know, uh. 194 00:22:07.769 --> 00:22:13.078 Initiative the city is still working through the process. 195 00:22:13.078 --> 00:22:16.108 For the downtown revitalization initiative. 196 00:22:16.108 --> 00:22:20.128 So, we're still moving along in a pretty good clip. 197 00:22:20.128 --> 00:22:24.929 But and we're waiting for some other projects to kind of get rounded out. 198 00:22:24.929 --> 00:22:28.528 Right. 199 00:22:28.528 --> 00:22:32.249 All right, there's nothing else. Can I get a motion to adjourn? 200 00:22:34.284 --> 00:22:39.683 1st, Jack, I want to say that I'm going to adopt your business strategy of taking in money and spending very little. 201 00:22:43.943 --> 00:22:54.864 Well, I'll try that for a while considering that I almost almost hit the shutter. The idea with when we had the building, and I could go on that for quite awhile. 202 00:22:56.064 --> 00:23:00.114 I'm happy to have a little bit in the coffers instead of wondering if I'm going to be able to. 203 00:23:00.449 --> 00:23:06.028 Uh, you know, just pay utilities or or pay the back control guy. So. 204 00:23:06.028 --> 00:23:12.538 Well, congratulations with that. I'm 3rd. 205 00:23:12.538 --> 00:23:17.098 Thanks you want a 2nd to 2nd, it. 206 00:23:17.098 --> 00:23:20.818 All right I'll favor, right? 207 00:23:20.818 --> 00:23:25.318 Post everybody, I'll throw out to the board. 208 00:23:25.318 --> 00:23:36.628 That should, you know, we have the civic development corporation that, uh, we can help not for not for profits who are going to be bonding. So, uh, if you. 209 00:23:36.628 --> 00:23:41.878 I have know of any projects from either boards that you sit on relatives, friends, et cetera. 210 00:23:41.878 --> 00:23:46.259 Or bigger projects that are either. 211 00:23:46.259 --> 00:23:49.739 Uh, could you could utilize the, or perhaps. 212 00:23:49.739 --> 00:23:52.739 I do write loans here also, and I have other. 213 00:23:52.739 --> 00:23:57.959 Partners that I can provide loans for, or with. 214 00:23:57.959 --> 00:24:02.489 Uh, to, um, you know, let me know, and and send them my way. 215 00:24:02.489 --> 00:24:08.699 Right. All right take care. Everybody have a good day. Everybody. 216 00:24:08.699 --> 00:24:13.108 Thank you everyone. Yep. Bye. Bye has left the meeting.